Obama's Healthcare?? Plan

[Churchmouse]

The more I see about this the more it looks like we are on the road to elderly euthanasia. This may not bother the younger members here, but it should.These things take place a little at a time. It may not effect older people like myself, but 30 or so years down the road a government official may decide when and whom is obsolete. If we were to go back sixty years did people believe there would be a day when unborn children lives could be terminated with the governments blessing?

As for the King part. I believe that Obama believes himself to the the King of the United States. A king's decisions are not questioned and are carried out without debate. He did this with the economy. Elected officials didn't even get a chance to read the package before it was voted on. Now we are finding out what it contained. I'm seeing his style now. Push things through the Democratic controlled Senate and House as quickly as possible. He finally hit a wall with this Healthcare Plan of his and it's the "blue dog" Democrats that stopped him. His sky high popularity has vanished and people , on both sides of the aisle, are beginning to question their choice.

Now that I'm retired I get free healthcare through the Veterans Administration. I pay $250 a month for my wife, and have a $5,000 deductable, but I prefer that to what the govenment is offering.

[prospectmom]

He did this with the economy. Elected officials didn't even get a chance to read the package before it was voted on.

Are you serious.. Congress and Senate put their own wants into the bill and werer willing to let it go through because they got their part....... No one was willing to look ahead to see the consequences. The senate and congress were tooo full of greed to get it what they individually wanted.


As for the King part.

Luckily we have a constitution..... and no he can not make a decision like a king could. Aren't we to be respectful to our persons in office especially our president even if we disagree with the policy.

The more I see about this the more it looks like we are on the road to elderly euthanasia.

Can you please show me wher in the proposed bill it any way states this?????

[miztrniceguy]

Obamacare is coming!!

[boyando]

Originally Posted by prospectmom

As for the King part.

Luckily we have a constitution..... and no he can not make a decision like a king could. Aren't we to be respectful to our persons in office especially our president even if we disagree with the policy.
President Obama is using czars to work his little magic. He is not a King and he is not a dictator, yet. But oh how great it would be.

The more I see about this the more it looks like we are on the road to elderly euthanasia.
President Obama stated in one of his town meeting that standards for care needed to bet set, and if some one does not meet the standards, because of age or other reasons, the best coarse of action would be to make the patient comfortable and send them home to die.
Can you please show me wher in the proposed bill it any way states this?????

Maybe we need to listen to what he is telling us.

[prospectmom]

who the poster who got the origons of the stimulis bill wrong or the Pres?????

[MarginOfError]

Well, if the President's vision of health care were to be realized, it would look a lot like the health care system for which I work. This health care system is rated in the top 5 in the country, and maintains its own health insurance plan that is quite effective at minimizing cost.

What's more, the model this health system works on reduces unnecessary procedures, and encourages more effective procedures that are usually associated with better outcomes. For instance, the hospital for which I work does more Uterine Fibroid Embolization (UFE) procedures that almost any other institution in the country. The reason for that is that the primary physicians in our system don't stand to lose money if they refer a patient for UFE. Traditionally, uterine fibroids are treated through gynecologic surgery, whereas UFE procedures are performed by a branch of radiology. For a gynecologist in a traditional health care system to refer that patient to the radiologist is to lose a patient and the revenue from that patient. In our model, the physician loses no revenue by referring the patient and can offer a less invasive procedure with better outcomes for the patient.

Unfortunately, Congress has its hands on health care now. It wasn't perfect under Obama's vision, but it's dismal under Congress's.

[Moksha]

Originally Posted by Churchmouse

The more I see about this the more it looks like we are on the road to elderly euthanasia.

What an off-the-wall idea. Euthanasia is much more likely in a society that lets people die from lack of health care because they lack health insurance or else have a preexisting condition.

[Moksha]

Originally Posted by MarginOfError

Unfortunately, Congress has its hands on health care now. It wasn't perfect under Obama's vision, but it's dismal under Congress's.

Congress is much better tuned into the need of those who want to make maximal bucks off this health care revision.

[prospectmom]

Congress is much better tuned into the need of those who want to make maximal bucks off this health care revision.

Yes Moksha the special interests, etc who pay the lobbyists to court the congress

[Palerider]

This so called Healthcare system is so wonderful....none of the current politicians want to use it for themselves.....its only good enough for us to use....isn't that nice of them....