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Old 08-21-2009, 11:47 AM
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Hugo Chavez is a threat to his neighbors. Putin is a threat to his neighbors. Hussein already murdered 100's of thousands of his own people. There is a difference and if you don't recognize it, you are more lost then I previously thought.

Edit: If we start threatening Mexico, for no good reason other then xenophobia and the desire for land, by all means get involved Canuck.
Hugo Chavez is a threat to his neighbors based upon what?

I'll give you Putin, since they invaded Georgia, but I should also point out that the US invaded Iraq, which makes them a threat to external people as well.
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I mean the internal affairs of our country. Why are people so concerned about our internal affairs and national laws?
Okay, let's take healthcare reform for example. We are very very involved in this discussion because this is something that can put your country in a gigantic national debt. This impacts the value of the dollar and this impacts the stability of American allies who may have to tangle with China once China starts calling on that debt.

Now, Funky and I are on different sides of this debate - which is logical because he lives in a country/countries who have instituted Nationalized healthcare while I came from a country who relies on self-providence for healthcare. So, when I say healthcare reform as it is written in HR 676 is going to cause US economy to destabilize, Funky can come back with - it hasn't done so in Canada/Britain (although, I still contend that HR 676 is completely different from Canadian/British healthcare). Funky and I also differ in principle - where I am more of a libertarian mindset (not the political party - the ideology) while Funky is more socialized (correct me if I'm wrong Funky!). And I'm sure it is because Funky lives in a more socialized environment while I lived in the midst of a booming economy caused by great teamwork between government and capitalism.

But, between Funky and I, we are not necessarily concerned with what will happen to the American people outside of our own personal principles and compassion, we are more concerned with how this will impact/not impact the value of the dollar or the power-balance between great nations.
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Who wants to bet that this person-who-shall-remain-nameless is actually a Republican?[/QUOTE]

Who cares what anyone is. My grandmother is a Catholic, my Aunty is a Freemason, I am a Mormon, you might be an idiot, does it matter? Because truth will prevail, as I said in another post. Have you read the very books YOUR messiah that runs the US has written.

Before you answer yourself and say you're not an idiot, maybe you should read them! But I am sure you, nor most of America has read any of his books which plainly state in black and white what his agenda is! Peace!
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Old 08-21-2009, 05:01 PM
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I am still baffled why foreigners are so overzealously worried about American politics.
They must really be putting additives in American water for dumbing down effects ha ha!

The reason everybody else in the world is concerned is because America is involved in every countries business. Just last week high ranking government officials visited and laid the hard word on our leaders here in New Zealand that if we didn't support the war in Afganistan then USA will not be there for us. What the .....nice bully tactics!!! I believe that is wrong!
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I'm still baffled why Americans are so overzealously worried about foreign politics.

You know I've read that some Americans actually have opinions on Hugo Chavez and Vladimir Putin despite not being either Venezuelan or Russian?

I agree that it's mystifying that anyone would care about any country outside of their own, or their leaders. That's just crazy. Did you know some Americans wanted to get involved in Iraq because they didn't like Saddam Hussein?
Well I want to know why the leaders of other countries meet with your leaders in secret at a meeting called Bilderberg every 6-12 months hosted by David Rockefeller? Without the public knowing. This is a crime punishable against the constitution.
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Yikes, they're pulling out all the stops in defeating health care for all.

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They must really be putting additives in American water for dumbing down effects ha ha!
That's not cool.

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The reason everybody else in the world is concerned is because America is involved in every countries business. Just last week high ranking government officials visited and laid the hard word on our leaders here in New Zealand that if we didn't support the war in Afganistan then USA will not be there for us. What the .....nice bully tactics!!! I believe that is wrong!
Agreed. I hate America's general foreign policy of "be the world's policemen!" when we have waaaay to many problems taking care of our own.
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I AM SORRY I VOTED FOR OBAMA

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The purpose of this website is to tell America that former Obama supporters are no longer proud of their decision. We want everyone to contribute a story of themselves or about someone they know that tells America that they are sorry they voted for Obama.

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I'm no Obama supporter, but this website is just sad. "Pathetic" might be a better word.
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Old 08-21-2009, 07:36 PM
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Ha ha I wonder how many black people will sign up opposed to white people LOL.

There have been a lot of charges about racism in this last election from the Obama side. I personally have never been a racist. But there was definitely racism in this election. 96 to 97% of African-Americans polled in this election said they will vote for Obama. Never in the history of this country has ANY candidate ever had such overwhelming numbers from any group. White, Black, Hispanic, Asian or other. The traveling Political, Racist, Circus called Acorn, which Obama worked with for years, created and sponsored voter fraud across the country by registering illegal immigrants, the Dallas Cowboys and Mickey Mouse. This is no joke. Acorn has actually done this and much, much more. Their belief is win …. at any cost…. the Constitution be Dammed! If that’s not prejudice, I don’t know what is.
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