33 states report on stimulus job creation.

[Elphaba]

According to UPI: 33 States Report on Stimulus Job Creation:

WASHINGTON, Oct. 28 (UPI) -- The $787 billion stimulus package passed in January is credited with saving or creating 388,000 jobs in 33 states, reports from individual states show.

A federal report compiling data from all 50 states is due Friday, USA Today reported Wednesday. In the meantime, the figure from states already reporting -- meant to be an actual count, not an estimate -- appears to back up the claim from President Barack Obama's Council of Economic Advisers that 600,000 to 1.1 million jobs have been created or saved, the newspaper said.

Former economic adviser to President George W. Bush Kevin Hassett said the state reports "vastly overstates," the number of jobs salvaged or created.

States say the bulk of the jobs rescued are in the field of education. California reports 20,000 teaching positions saved, while Indiana reports 13,000.

Of the 33 reports, 23 report on educational positions. Added up, 156,000 educational jobs have been saved among the 23 states, the newspaper said.

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[Just_A_Guy]

Apparently, though, in at least some cases educational jobs were considered "saved" even if it was just a matter of a tenured professor using some of a federal research grant.

I don't doubt that some--perhaps many--jobs were created. I just question the numbers, and wonder whether it's worth everything we'll be paying for them in the end. At this point I'm inclined to trust Obama's numbers on his economic policy as much as you trust Bush's numbers on his Iraq policy.

[bytor2112]

The phrase "created or saved" is pure political genius by Obama and pure snake oil.

[ryanh]

Hard to say what the real story is. Seems there are competing news stories out there regarding the accuracy of the numbers.

Stimulus jobs overstated by 1,000s

[boyando]

Hey, I know I feel better.

And this news makes me feel so much better about all the people I know, with out a job.

[beefche]

I don't understand. If so many jobs were created, why is unemployment at a high 9.8%? Wouldn't that number be lowered with the creation of so many jobs?

[Loudmouth_Mormon]

What a tragic, horrible thing. The federal government taking my children's money to give to someone else today, for something that most likely the State govt ought to decide about.

Horrible, unrighteous, unconstitutional, inefficient, bad thing.

LM

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by Loudmouth_Mormon

What a tragic, horrible thing. The federal government taking my children's money to give to someone else today, for something that most likely the State govt ought to decide about.

Horrible, unrighteous, unconstitutional, inefficient, bad thing.

LM

Any job loss above 8% is because of the current administration that said if they could not install their changes what we would see unemployment rise to 8%. This is proof that the cure is worse than the sickness.

The Traveler

[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by ryanh

Stimulus jobs overstated by 1,000s

Originally Posted by Just_A_Guy

educational jobs were considered "saved" even if it was just a matter of a tenured professor using some of a federal research grant.

According to both articles, part of the problem is recipients don’t know how to determine if a job counts as “saved,” or not. I have no idea what instructions the government provided, but perhaps a more precise directive needs to be disseminated.

It is absolutely ridiculous to count tenured professors. It is also offensive because it appears, at least to me, that the university’s administration purposely chose to included tenured profs to make the numbers look better than they were. Did they think we’re so stupid we wouldn’t notice?

I think it is important to recognize there were still thousands of jobs that can legitimately be counted as saved by the stimulus.

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[Palerider]

All those states saved all those education jobs, but they still slashed their own state budgets and cut many state employee jobs....I wonder how many of those 33 states cut state jobs.