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Old 11-02-2009, 11:36 AM
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Default Ford Motor Company posts surprise $1B profit

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Hm.

Sadly, this will probably make Ford a target for more taxation and the Unions will undoubtedly use this as an excuse to try and get more, even as the Government will, no doubt, take credit for all this.

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Woops, some of that has happened already:

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Actually, the government is partially to thank for this. They gave bailouts to GM and Chrysler, which made Ford look sparkling by comparison. On the flipside though, imagine what kind of numbers Ford would be posting if the other two had been left to die. I think we'd be seeing some anti-trust litigation right about now.
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Ford is doing well because they are able to have commercials as they wish as well. You hardly see any GM commercials (not nearly what you used to) and I can count on one hand the Chrysler commercials I see in a week. See about 1 or 2 Ford commercials/hour, though.

A lot of people swore off of GM/Chrysler when they took the bailout because it was NOT a popular action by either administration. And I used to work with both GM and Ford in selling them parts, and believe me, Ford was much easier to work with as a supplier than GM was, by FAR. They actually treated you like a partner. GM treated you as an adversary for the most part, and truly adhered to the old purchasing motto: you (the supplier) are wrong. Even if you prove that you are right, you are wrong and you will be the one to pay for it.

I was sad to see the US cede automotive supremacy to Toyota (BTW, I am a Toyota man, I have always had them and always will), but since it was GM, I wasn't too broke up by it...
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Actually, the government is partially to thank for this. They gave bailouts to GM and Chrysler, which made Ford look sparkling by comparison. On the flipside though, imagine what kind of numbers Ford would be posting if the other two had been left to die. I think we'd be seeing some anti-trust litigation right about now.
I think what made Ford look so good wasn't so much that they didn't receive a bailout, but rather, that they refused it. Ford execs were afraid of losing control of the company to the Government.

And they were right.
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I drive a Ford....a big, gas guzzling, environment killing, tree hugging nightmare......Expedition! Love it and love contributing to the global warming paranoia.
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I drive a Ford....a big, gas guzzling, environment killing, tree hugging nightmare......Expedition! Love it and love contributing to the global warming paranoia.
Right there with ya. Our Freestar has a 4.2L which, while smaller than whatever is under the hood of your Expedition, is still ginormous for a V6...
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I'm still lamenting the demise of the Excursion. I'm not much of a car guy, but I hear they were wonderful tow vehicles.
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How's this for towing ability? It can haul a tank (literally).

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I seriously need some new glasses. I thought the title said that Ford announces an $18 profit...not $1B. I thought wow...at least they made a profit.
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If you read the financial statement, most the "profit" came from cost cutting, plant closures, union concessions and, yes; higher sticker prices for new models. I am not impressed
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