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11-06-2009, 02:38 PM
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Looks like they've switched the url's or stories. The related story was the one I gave the link to.
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11-06-2009, 02:58 PM
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It is unbelievable. I was glued to Fox all last night, up to the news conference around 9:30 my time. I was glad to hear at least the civilian cop wasn't killed, that she was in stable condition. I'm also glad that Hassan wasn't killed, so that they can find out if there is anything more to this than just him deciding he didn't want to go.
Then today, another 8 are shot in Orlando? I heard that on the news as I was out getting some lunch.
We are living in a time when people are doing heinous things. The creep in Ohio that raped women and had, what, 10 bodies buried around his yard?
I keep thinking of Christ's warning that the love of men shall grow cold. News like this is horrendous, and yet somehow I'm not shocked. Is it because we are inundated with death and destruction so much that we are getting callous to it? I think of the Jaredite and Nephite nations, at the end, and how there was war continually before them. I got to think that they had become so immune to suffering that it didn't faze them anymore.
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11-06-2009, 03:07 PM
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Six I agree with you. A few years ago..hearing news like this I would have broken down in sobs. I'm still sad but..it just seems so common place anymore that unfortunately it just doesn't have the shock value it once had.
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11-06-2009, 03:12 PM
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I have to just throw a warning to everyone... 10% unemployment rate is going to increase crime rate as well. It's just the nature of the thing.
The guy in Orlando was fired 2 years ago and couldn't find a stable job since. He filed for bankruptcy earlier this year and he has been heard saying that his previous company has left him out to rot.
The Ft. Hood incident just sounds to me like another one of those jihad events - no matter what the press is saying...
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11-06-2009, 03:35 PM
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The Ft. Hood incident just sounds to me like another one of those jihad events - no matter what the press is saying...
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I agree, but with the additional caveat that it was most likely triggered also by his scheduled deployment. In other words, if he hadn't been affected by an upcoming deployment, I doubt he would have committed this act of "Jihad".
He is quite simply a coward at many, many levels. He doesn't understand the values he represented when he donned that uniform. He didn't understand the values his chosen religion represented. He doesn't respect civil values, laws and regulations. He simply felt bad for himself and took it out on other people in the name of his religion.
Unfortunately, he gets the headlines while the victims and their families are sub-stories to this horrible event. It is very difficult for me to focus on compassion to the victims instead of my anger toward this coward, but I try. I know the anger isn't good. I sure would like for him to have to face each of the victims families and look them in the eyes, but I doubt he'd think much beyond feeling sorry for himself being locked up, probably in his mind, unfairly. Uggh.....I hate when stuff like this happens.
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11-07-2009, 12:28 AM
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I just found out a member of my unit was wounded. I wonder often what can I do? I know I can't impact the global world but I hope I can be a hand of compassion to those who need it. A big topic at work today was "self care." We work with the afteraffects of trauma every day. We hear the stories and connect to the vets. NPR was discussing this event and the topic of "vicarious traumatization" came up. In other words, was his exposure to second hand trauma of working with returning Soliders traumatizing to him and a factor in the event? Dude, there are thousands of therapists working with trauma. The vast majority of us don't go on shooting rampages. THat just ticked me off. Who knows what caused him to go shooting? In the long run, I'm not sure it really matters, unless that factor can help some of those impacted by his violence to heal. What matters is taking care of our wounded- those wounded physically, emotionally, and spiritually- by this event.
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11-07-2009, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by anatess
I have to just throw a warning to everyone... 10% unemployment rate is going to increase crime rate as well. It's just the nature of the thing.
The guy in Orlando was fired 2 years ago and couldn't find a stable job since. He filed for bankruptcy earlier this year and he has been heard saying that his previous company has left him out to rot.
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That's true, with the unemployment rate as high as it is, the crime rate can go up as well. Already, rates of domestic violence have risen with the unemployment rate.
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My brother in law is all set to be based there (Ft. Hood). They are moving on Monday. This was a big shock. I'm glad that they waited until Monday to go, and not last week as originally planned.
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11-07-2009, 06:24 PM
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"God is Great" . . . it's the same thing that was recorded in the black boxes of the 9/11 planes before they went down.
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Huh? You mean to say there was something recorded on the black boxes found in 9/11. Show me where, cos everybody else in the world was told they were damaged beyond repair and no one knows what is on them!
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11-07-2009, 06:27 PM
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It's a common phrase in the Islamic world. It's also something that militant islamic folks shout as they detonate their suicide vests, or fire their mortars into a US army base. Basically, if you figure the act of violence you're about to commit is sanctioned by Allah, you shout that phrase as you set it into motion.
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Are you sure? How many things can you think of that Mormons are supposed to do? Be careful what you believe!
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