Israel also sabotaged Irish ship, say Gaza flotilla organizers

[arvoreen73]

Israel also sabotaged Irish ship, say Gaza flotilla organizers - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

[rameumptom]

Good for Israel. PLO is using such flotillas to bring in weapons.

[lines]

On this issue I am not on anyones side because its none of my business. The Israel Palestine issue is between two foreign peoples in a foreign land. This is none of America's business and I am upset that some USA politicians have commented on the issue. It is none of the USA's business, it is between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

[Loudmouth_Mormon]

Allies shouldn't express opinions and take stands on issues that affects an ally?

That's an odd thing to get upset about...

[GB-UK]

Yet again Israel goes out into international waters and attacks foreign aid ships. Isn't it about time they were bombed by NATO for the frequent violations and attacks on its citizens in the same way there doing in Libya? Israel doesn't want peace they just want to grab as much land as possible before there forced to the table to finally give back the land they have no actual claim to.

[Loudmouth_Mormon]

Originally Posted by GB-UK

Yet again Israel goes out into international waters and attacks foreign aid ships

Yeah - "foreign aid". Such a tasty soundbyte. So seductive and easy to believe. Of course, it's not that most of the people initially planning the flotilla have abandoned it after learning of the facts on the ground, and how they can work with Israel to get aid into Gaza. It's not that the remaining boats contain hard-core terror activists. Of course there have been no threats of deadly violence from some of the boats. There couldn't be any information about stockpiles of sulphuric acid to be used on Israeli's boarding the boats. Nah - it's just the evil Israelis picking on peaceful relief workers.

Yeah. That's much easier to believe.

Israel doesn't want peace they just want to grab as much land as possible before there forced to the table to finally give back the land they have no actual claim to.

I'm always amazed at how incredibly far apart educated people can be on this issue.

From where I'm standing, Israel would love peace. Surrounded by enemies, several of which have "destruction of the jewish state" written into their founding documents as a top goal, living under the constant threat of terrorist bombing or missile attack, Israel understands a thing or two about peace. They understand one way to have peace with such enemies is to allow themselves to be wiped off the earth, but that option isn't too attractive. They understand that strength against enemies is why they're not all wiped off the earth. A lot of them understand endless patience in the face of unjust violence. They understand their enemies hide among children and noncombatants, launching attacks from their midst. They understand their enemies fight a global PR war as viciously as they fight with missiles and rockets.

Yeah, they'd love peace. But they understand how far away it is, given who it is they'd like to have peace with.

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by GB-UK

Yet again Israel goes out into international waters and attacks foreign aid ships. Isn't it about time they were bombed by NATO for the frequent violations and attacks on its citizens in the same way there doing in Libya? Israel doesn't want peace they just want to grab as much land as possible before there forced to the table to finally give back the land they have no actual claim to.

Not true. The country of Israel is in a state of war. One can argue who started what but that is not the point because the state of war exists by declaration. The point is that international law provides different standards of what is aid to countries that are at war and what a country in a state of war can do in international waters. Any shipment that does not conform to the articles of aid at time of war can legally be searched and confiscated in international waters. Also by international law a shipment of humanitarian aid cannot be armed.

It is very sad and disappointing when someone criticizes and blames those that conform to and enforce just and agreed upon laws and say nothing about those that break the law. Israel may have broken international law on other accessions - but I do not see any evidence here. If and when they do; action is justified and should be taken but even if one entity is breaking the law it does not give justification for another entity to break the law. By international law a aid ship to an area at war cannot have armaments (offensive or defensive) - that fact alone means it was not aid; regardless of cargo.

[Loudmouth_Mormon]

Breaking news from Ha'Aretz: Greece blocks departure of all Gaza-bound ships.

The Greek government issued a statement on Friday, saying that the departure of ships with Greek and foreign flags from Greek ports to the maritime area of Gaza has been prohibited. The statement explained that this is in a bid to prevent a breach of Israel’s naval blockade.

The Greek government stressed that local Hellenic Coast Guard Authorities must take all appropriate measures to implement the decision. It also warned that the broader maritime area of the eastern Mediterranean Sea will be continuously monitored by electronic means for tracking the movement of ships trying to participate in the flotilla.

Not a bad decision, especially considering the following facts about GB-UK's "foreign aid ships":
* The flotilla is being run by Muhammad Sawalha from the Muslim Brotherhood (on the US terrorist organization list since 2008).
* Many of the organizations participating in the flotilla have been linked with the Union of Good (UoG), associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.
* One of the organizers is the happy International Solidarity Movement (ISM). Google them - I dare ya.

Yeah, "foreign aid ships". Same folks as the last flotilla - slightly revised tactics. Let's remember what happened during the first flotilla.

Youtube: Radio transmissions from 31 May 2010 Check out 2:05 ("shut up, go back to Auschwitz"), and 5:42 ("don't forget 9-11").

You can also google video of IDF boarding parties getting immediately attacked and savagely beaten by the peace-loving members of the first flotilla.

"Foreign Aid Ships". Heh. I can't get over it.

[HoosierGuy]

What the world needs is a very strong Iran who can keep Israel in check. Take away the Holocaust angle and holy land angle and I think more people would view Israel as a punk country.

[PrinceofLight2000]

Originally Posted by HoosierGuy

What the world needs is a very strong Iran who can keep Israel in check. Take away the Holocaust angle and holy land angle and I think more people would view Israel as a punk country.

Iran's definition of keeping Israel "in check" is to nuke it into oblivion.