Originally Posted by a-train
So are we going to say this for just the LDS God, or for all the gods?
I am saying it as a mater of rational thought. Mankind is sitting on the threshold of genetic engineering - I want you to realize the impact that intelligent feedback would have to evolution.
By observation we know a universe can and does exist. If events can be channeled without any intelligent intervention - it would be rather foolish to demand logic that intelligent intervention could not eventually evolve capable of reverse engineering creation. The problem is the assumption that intelligence cannot evolve capable of doing what is already claimed to be capable of happening without any intelligent intervention.
What I am saying is that if you are not smart enough to imagine intelligence greater than what you are capable of - you cannot argue intelligence from a evolution standpoint. And if you do not believe intelligence can evolve - then mankind had to have been created by existing intelligence.
So it does not matter what you assume as a starting point - you must admit that intelligence can be increased by evolution. Now you must either prove there is a point beyond which intelligence cannot evolve or admit that giving infinite possibilities (if that is how the universe came about in the first place) that infinite intelligence is possible. If it is possible then saying there is no G-d is a an admission that infinite possibilities really are not possible - now you are stuck with G-d as the only possibility as to why the universe exists in the first place.
The problem is - even if we can disprove an irrational magic G-d operating outside of "reality" -- that does nothing to say evolving intelligence cannot continue. If evolving intelligence continues - we have just define one definite possibility of G-d. Why would anyone not believe in something possible that can rationally be proven to be possible from their very arguments of what is possible?