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Old 08-22-2007, 09:05 AM
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Check this out. Mitt's the man.
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And CK, you know what is amazing? Listening to mayors, such as the one of Newark, actually DEFEND their status as a 'sanctuary city' especially after those 3 illegals gunned down 3 college students in his town! And one of them is a suspect in raping a 5 year old girl repeatedly, and because Newark is a 'sanctuary' they couldn't alert the feds!

This country is self destructing because we elect idiots to positions of power that hate the US and want to destroy it. If I were the parent of one of the victims that were murdered, I'd be suing the City of Newark and the Mayor in particular for the death of my child. I don't think we should sue, that we should turn the other cheek, but in this instance I believe it would be warranted, in order to save other people's kids/spouses/parents. And with anything I won, I give it all to organizations that promote getting the illegals out of this country...

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I say go to it, Romney. I agree totally.
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Take alook at this website if you don't think sanctuary cities are a problem or wide spread in the U. S.

http://www.ojjpac.org/sanctuary.asp
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Take alook at this website if you don't think sanctuary cities are a problem or wide spread in the U. S.

http://www.ojjpac.org/sanctuary.asp[/b]
Who is Steve Salvi? What is his expertise in immigration? What is OJJPAC? What is it's expertise?

For every site like the one you linked I can find one opposing it. Everyone has an opinion and loves to put it on the internet.

Show me a site designed by people with expertise in immigration issues who have no bias. That I will consider.

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Take alook at this website if you don't think sanctuary cities are a problem or wide spread in the U. S.

http://www.ojjpac.org/sanctuary.asp[/b]
Who is Steve Salvi? What is his expertise in immigration? What is OJJPAC? What is it's expertise?

For every site like the one you linked I can find one opposing it. Everyone has an opinion and loves to put it on the internet.

Show me a site designed by people with expertise in immigration issues who have no bias. That I will consider.

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That is kinda funny. Some people who are experts in immigration who have no bias? Well, the names are New Mexico, Arizona, California, Florida, Texas, basically any state that has an ocean nearby......, yeah, the millions of those experts I am sure who lived there years before the populations quadrupled...... they might have an opinion, dont you think?
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I was mainly referring to the number of cities and areas or states that are allowing this. That should be allarming to any of us, I would think.

OJJPAC: Ohio Jobs and Justice PAC. You can find information about them online. I am not advocating any group, only looking at how many cities are actually calling themselves a sanctuary city and giving safe haven to many people that are criminals and wreaking havoc in our country. Not saying that all of them are, but many are.
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That is kinda funny. Some people who are experts in immigration who have no bias? Well, the names are New Mexico, Arizona, California, Florida, Texas, basically any state that has an ocean nearby......, yeah, the millions of those experts I am sure who lived there years before the populations quadrupled...... they might have an opinion, dont you think?
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I just moved back up North from Georgia and Kentucky/Tennessee. Atlanta actually had 'marchin' mexicans' on the day that they protested for their 'rights' in this country. Any warm weather state is overrun with 'em, and nobody does a darn thing about it. This is a problem and anyone that states it isn't is living in denial. And the crime is unbelievable. Nearly every story of a murder is of a Jose or Pedro or Juan...

I dare any of the deniers to take up their cause in the countries these illegals are coming from. Go ahead, head for Mexico and demand your 'rights'...What you'll get is a night or week or month on Uncle Pedro down there getting to know the justice system up close and personal. Other countries wouldn't put up with that BS because they know they have to be sovereign and protect their borders, but for some reason the idiot libs think that it is a 'right' for illegals to come here and do whatever they want and, oh by the way, have us pay for their medical and living expenses!

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Take alook at this website if you don't think sanctuary cities are a problem or wide spread in the U. S.

http://www.ojjpac.org/sanctuary.asp[/b]
Who is Steve Salvi? What is his expertise in immigration? What is OJJPAC? What is it's expertise?

For every site like the one you linked I can find one opposing it. Everyone has an opinion and loves to put it on the internet.

Show me a site designed by people with expertise in immigration issues who have no bias. That I will consider.

Elphaba
[/b][/quote]

That is kinda funny. Some people who are experts in immigration who have no bias? Well, the names are New Mexico, Arizona, California, Florida, Texas, basically any state that has an ocean nearby......, yeah, the millions of those experts I am sure who lived there years before the populations quadrupled...... they might have an opinion, dont you think?[/b][/quote]I think they have an opinion and it is worth listening to. They have, after all, experienced the effects of immigration issues.

But to accurately represent the situation, you need an expert who can analyze the data but who has no bias. Therefore, no, they're opinion is not relevant when it comes to providing an accurate picture of the situation.

What I need is someone who is going to provide a reliable analysis that I can trust will be accurate and without a bias so that I can utilize it to decide who to vote for. I don't want an analysis that tells me what I want to hear. I want one that tells me the truth.

Don't you think?

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