Tsk Tsk

[sgallan]

Considering Idaho’s Larry Craig on the issues:

* Voted YES on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
* Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
* Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
* Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
* Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)

This does give one pause.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?hpid=topnews

[pushka]

Methinks he doth protest too much!

[siouxz72]

I'm with you Pushka! I really don't think there's any talking his way out of this one. I can see passing your hand under the wall if you need a square of tissue but that usually comes with a request... can you spare a square?!

[sgallan]

I would guess that Sen Craig will not be seaking re-election.

[Josie]

I think it is really sad that this man has done these things that not only brings disgrace to him and his family, but to a Church and a nation because of his actions. Being LDS, I think we are under the microscope so to speak as much or more than most. Our actions, good or bad, speak volumes directly upon the Church in other people's eyes and in this case, our nation too.

Our actions have such far reaching effects that we probably do not really understand all that happens as a direct or indirect result of our actions many times.

[sgallan]

I think Craig is a Methodist.

[Elphaba]

The story is a bit more complicated that the article Washington Post article suggests: From the Roll Call article:

Karsnia entered the bathroom at noon that day and about 13 minutes after taking a seat in a stall, he stated he could see “an older white male with grey hair standing outside my stall.”

The man, who lingered in front of the stall for two minutes, was later identified as Craig.

“I could see Craig look through the crack in the door from his position. Craig would look down at his hands, ‘fidget’ with his fingers, and then look through the crack into my stall again. Craig would repeat this cycle for about two minutes,” the report states.

Craig then entered the stall next to Karsnia’s and placed his roller bag against the front of the stall door.

“My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall,” Karsnia stated in his report. “From my seated position, I could observe the shoes and ankles of Craig seated to the left of me.”

Craig was wearing dress pants with black dress shoes.

“At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. Craig tapped his toes several times and moves his foot closer to my foot. I moved my foot up and down slowly. While this was occurring, the male in the stall to my right was still present. I could hear several unknown persons in the restroom that appeared to use the restroom for its intended use. The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area,” the report states.

Craig then proceeded to swipe his hand under the stall divider several times, and Karsnia noted in his report that “I could ... see Craig had a gold ring on his ring finger as his hand was on my side of the stall divider.”

Karsnia then held his police identification down by the floor so that Craig could see it.

“With my left hand near the floor, I pointed towards the exit. Craig responded, ‘No!’ I again pointed towards the exit. Craig exited the stall with his roller bags without flushing the toilet. ... Craig said he would not go. I told Craig that he was under arrest, he had to go, and that I didn’t want to make a scene. Craig then left the restroom.”

In a recorded interview after his arrest, Craig “either disagreed with me or ‘didn’t recall’ the events as they happened,” the report states.

Craig stated “that he has a wide stance when going to the bathroom and that his foot may have touched mine,” the report states. Craig also told the arresting officer that he reached down with his right hand to pick up a piece of paper that was on the floor.

“It should be noted that there was not a piece of paper on the bathroom floor, nor did Craig pick up a piece of paper,” the arresting officer said in the report.

On Aug. 8, the day he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in the Minnesota court, Craig appeared via satellite at a ceremony that took place in Idaho in which former Idaho federal Judge Randy Smith was invested into his new position as a judge on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

In October 2006, Craig’s office publicly denied allegations that he was a homosexual made on a gay activist Web site — blogactive.com. Craig’s office told the Spokane Spokesman-Review that the charge was “completely ridiculous,” saying that the allegations had “no basis in fact.”

Roll Call/Craig arrest

I think it's obvious Craig was soliciting sex. However, I think it's a waste of time to spend manpower and money cracking down on this type of thing.

What is outrageous is tto me is what Scott alluded to above. Craig obviously is homosexual, and yet he actively supports anti-homosexual legislation. He makes connections in bathrooms to satisfy his lust, and then denounces and denies those who are out of the closet and truly love each other the chance to legally bind that love.

I don't have a problem with gay people who want to stay in the closet. That's their choice. I have a huge problem with those who stay in the closet and actively work to hurt those who are brave enough to have come out of it.

Elphaba

[siouxz72]

I don't think the article specifies his religion.

What I think is really sad is that people feel that they have to live this terrible lie. That they can't or don't feel free to be who they really are...or who they think they really are.

[sgallan]

I looked it up. It's Methodist. And I agree.... it is sad.

[Josie]

I apologize, I was told this morning at Church that he was LDS, I should have checked before making the comments I did. But, regardless of what Church it is, or what family, or everything else that a person is connected with, our actions have far reaching effects, regardless of who we are.