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I'm new to ldstalk. I am really happy to see that people of all beliefs are here! Since I am married to a Muslim, Mahdi's name stood out to me. Soon I hope to find all his/her posts and read them. My husband lives in Swat, up int the Northern secluded mountains of the Himalayas, and thats also a place of peace, often called "Shangri-la" or "shamabala" in the past. Its where Buddha was born. They were independent country until 1979. Last month Taliban moved into this secluded city and started bombing and killing innocent people, and the people don't even know what they are doing there and are freaked out! One thing I want to get through to the world is that the extremist Muslims are not just attacking Westerners. They are also attacking Muslims who they think are not living perfectly enough. 2 weeks ago they murdered my husband's aunt for owning a shop in her home. 2 days ago they bombed 48 shops for selling music. Today they destroyed all the Barber's shops so men would grow a beard. 3 days ago, they beheaded 2 ladies heads becuase they were walking home alone at night so Taliban figured they were prostitutes. They are killing as many police as they can so people will no longer want to be policemen, then there will be no stabiity, then the Taliban/al-qaeda will do like they are doing in Afghanistan, and act as if they are giving protection and security to the area in place of the police, so the people start to trust them and support them. This all happened within 1-3 blocks of my husband's home.
There is an amazing amount of Islamic beliefs that are the same as LDS, so my husband and I can speak about our beliefs very comfortably. Please see www.mormonmuslim.com .
Can we help Americans get rid of the prejudice that this presidency has caused? The Muslims are being treated the way the blacks were treated in the 1950s and before. You know how when a crime is reported, and someone wants to give a description but they aren't really sure, many times they just say it was a black person? Well for the first time, I saw this done with a Muslim! The deescription was "a Muslim"! How could a victim tell a person's religion by his looks????
The Muslim religion, as Mohammad taught it, is only peace and obedience to God. Anything else you see Muslim groups doing is just extremists making up their own rules, or rules that were changed later, according to customs and tradtions and wrong interpretations. All 3 major religions came from God through all the prophets, then to Abraham, who taught both his sons the same gospel, then the 2 brothers were separated. One broter's group became Islam, the other brother's group became Jewish and Christian. The very Christ that we worship has declared TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! The very commandments from our God, listed in order of importance, say 1) To love God with all your heart, 2) to love your neighbor as yourself. and Bible says UPON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE REST OF THE LAW. So there is NO PLACE for hatred of any group. So my dear readers, hatred is as bad a sin as the worst of other sins. People fear what they don't understand. So learn about those things that you fear, and you will find the fear is gone. THe more we communicate and mingle with each other, the more we will understand each other. Segregation causes the unknown, the fear.
I was happy to see some people of other faiths posting here, but wondered why they would want to post on an LDS site. Hope to get to know you all better.
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I have nothing against Muslims in the least -- as long as they don't consider me a dhimmi or my daughters as kafir then everything is fine.

Just curious, a Muslim male is told he can marry a woman who is Jewish or Christian but not a pagan infidel. Of course, a Muslim woman is forbidden to marry a Christian man or Jew. The point is that it runs against Islam for a Muslim male to allow his children to be raised anything but Islamic. How can a Christian woman resolve this problem?
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I'm new to ldstalk. I am really happy to see that people of all beliefs are here! Since I am married to a Muslim, Mahdi's name stood out to me. Soon I hope to find all his/her posts and read them. My husband lives in Swat, up int the Northern secluded mountains of the Himalayas, and thats also a place of peace, often called "Shangri-la" or "shamabala" in the past. Its where Buddha was born. They were independent country until 1979. Last month Taliban moved into this secluded city and started bombing and killing innocent people, and the people don't even know what they are doing there and are freaked out! One thing I want to get through to the world is that the extremist Muslims are not just attacking Westerners. They are also attacking Muslims who they think are not living perfectly enough. 2 weeks ago they murdered my husband's aunt for owning a shop in her home. 2 days ago they bombed 48 shops for selling music. Today they destroyed all the Barber's shops so men would grow a beard. 3 days ago, they beheaded 2 ladies heads becuase they were walking home alone at night so Taliban figured they were prostitutes. They are killing as many police as they can so people will no longer want to be policemen, then there will be no stabiity, then the Taliban/al-qaeda will do like they are doing in Afghanistan, and act as if they are giving protection and security to the area in place of the police, so the people start to trust them and support them. This all happened within 1-3 blocks of my husband's home.
There is an amazing amount of Islamic beliefs that are the same as LDS, so my husband and I can speak about our beliefs very comfortably. Please see www.mormonmuslim.com .
Can we help Americans get rid of the prejudice that this presidency has caused? The Muslims are being treated the way the blacks were treated in the 1950s and before. You know how when a crime is reported, and someone wants to give a description but they aren't really sure, many times they just say it was a black person? Well for the first time, I saw this done with a Muslim! The deescription was "a Muslim"! How could a victim tell a person's religion by his looks????
The Muslim religion, as Mohammad taught it, is only peace and obedience to God. Anything else you see Muslim groups doing is just extremists making up their own rules, or rules that were changed later, according to customs and tradtions and wrong interpretations. All 3 major religions came from God through all the prophets, then to Abraham, who taught both his sons the same gospel, then the 2 brothers were separated. One broter's group became Islam, the other brother's group became Jewish and Christian. The very Christ that we worship has declared TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! The very commandments from our God, listed in order of importance, say 1) To love God with all your heart, 2) to love your neighbor as yourself. and Bible says UPON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE REST OF THE LAW. So there is NO PLACE for hatred of any group. So my dear readers, hatred is as bad a sin as the worst of other sins. People fear what they don't understand. So learn about those things that you fear, and you will find the fear is gone. THe more we communicate and mingle with each other, the more we will understand each other. Segregation causes the unknown, the fear.
I was happy to see some people of other faiths posting here, but wondered why they would want to post on an LDS site. Hope to get to know you all better.
Blessings, Penlady
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This 'presidency' didn't cause prejudice. I'm a little ticked they haven't done more profiling. The extremist Muslims caused the prejudice. And while I am saddened that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are harming other Muslims (which we have seen in Afghanistan and Iraq, but the US is still to blame, right?), why aren't the moderate or mainline Muslims standing up and denouncing these murderous freaks as well? They're not. And THAT causes prejudice.

I know that when I fly, if there is a guy wearing Islamic clothing, like robes and the like, I watch him more closely than others. Or if he looks more Arabic than the others. Who wouldn't?

Like I said, profiling is valid. I once flew right after 9/11 and was pulled aside with two 80 year olds to be searched while two guys with towels on their heads got on with no problem.

Thought that was a bit ridiculous. I mean, that old lady could have been carrying an Uzi in her walker!
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It is still the same way too. And now the congress passed a bill to ask European visitors to the USA what their political stances are and their sexual orientation. Never know when a bi sexual female student socialist from Norway might go on a jihad I guess.
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You show your own prejudice in your verbiage.
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The way you keep talking about your husband's home, you do not live there. Why?

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It is still the same way too. And now the congress passed a bill to ask European visitors to the USA what their political stances are and their sexual orientation. Never know when a bi sexual female student socialist from Norway might go on a jihad I guess.[/b]
Do you have a reference for this? I couldn't find one.

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Like I said, profiling is valid. I once flew right after 9/11 and was pulled aside with two 80 year olds to be searched while two guys with towels on their heads got on with no problem. [/b]
You show your own prejudice in your verbiage.
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Yeah, racial profiling is wrong...except if you are a Democrat demogogue and just assume that black voters should vote for you just because you are a Democrat.
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You show your own prejudice in your verbiage.
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Because he is trying to immigrate to be with me, and the WHO is advising all tourists to stay out of that area until further notice, and I don't want to live anywhere else, and a few other reasons.
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