Listen To The Generals......the Dishonest Harry Reid

[mountainrider]

"As Speaker Pelosi said, the President's plan will receive an up-or-down
vote in both Chambers of Congress. With that vote, our hope -- our prayer
-- is that this President will finally listen. Listen to the Generals." Senator Harry Reid in pre-State of the Union address, Jan. 07


"In a bold challenge to Petraeus' assessment, Reid said the "situation on the ground in Iraq has not changed at all." He later acknowledged gains in Anbar province, "but it's like the big balloon that you push on one side and it comes out someplace else."

Petraeus' assessment inflamed Democrats, but assuaged many Republicans. It did lead to tough questions from several Republican skeptics, including Sens. John Warner of Virginia and Susan Collins of Maine, but most GOP lawmakers said they were reluctant to impose a firm timetable."
http://www.mercurynews.com/realestatenews/ci_6868850

So, I guess Harry Reid will only listen to the Generals that support the position in HIS mind that he made up long ago.

I am definitely sure that some armchair general politician in Washington knows more about what is going on on the ground in Iraq than a 4 star that lives it every day. We are in serious trouble with clowns like this in power in the US Government. Yikes.....

[vgt_bob]

While Reid is a political hack he is my hack (I live in Nevada).

Anybody who thinks "the generals" do not have political motivation are ignorant of how generals become generals or live in a fantasy world.

Petraeus was a brigadier general in 1999 (one star) and a general (four stars) in 2007. All stars come directly from the president. So a general who has advanced faster than his piers by promotions from a president then provides an unbiased report?

I imagine you think that General Westmoreland was an independent source of information during Viet Nam also?

General Petraeus is a brilliant, talented individual who owes his career advancement over the last 7 years to GW Bush.

Robert B.

BTW - checked his biography - General Petraeus and I were both in the US Army and stationed in Italy at the same time. Different units but within a few miles of each other. Heck, I probably even saluted him once or twice.

[Snow]

While I wouldn't expect much ethical behavior from a politician, you'd hope that a Mormon one would have higher standards... like the nonsense he is wasting time over with Rush Limbaugh.

Absurd.

[Fiannan]

I don't know, if anyone has seen the movie Idiocracy the president in that film and Harry Reid have a lot in common.

[mountainrider]

While Reid is a political hack he is my hack (I live in Nevada).

Anybody who thinks "the generals" do not have political motivation are ignorant of how generals become generals or live in a fantasy world.

Petraeus was a brigadier general in 1999 (one star) and a general (four stars) in 2007. All stars come directly from the president. So a general who has advanced faster than his piers by promotions from a president then provides an unbiased report?

I imagine you think that General Westmoreland was an independent source of information during Viet Nam also?

General Petraeus is a brilliant, talented individual who owes his career advancement over the last 7 years to GW Bush.

Robert B.

BTW - checked his biography - General Petraeus and I were both in the US Army and stationed in Italy at the same time. Different units but within a few miles of each other. Heck, I probably even saluted him once or twice.
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Exactly the response I expected. "we don't trust him because he is George W. Bush's General". If it were a Clinton General, or a Jimmy Carter General or anyone else, would you believe his assessment of Iraq then? Probably.

Bush has been in a Catch 22 his whole presidency because of dishonest liberals who will never be happy with anything out of his administration.

[Canuck Mormon]

"As Speaker Pelosi said, the President's plan will receive an up-or-down
vote in both Chambers of Congress. With that vote, our hope -- our prayer
-- is that this President will finally listen. Listen to the Generals." Senator Harry Reid in pre-State of the Union address, Jan. 07


"In a bold challenge to Petraeus' assessment, Reid said the "situation on the ground in Iraq has not changed at all." He later acknowledged gains in Anbar province, "but it's like the big balloon that you push on one side and it comes out someplace else."

Petraeus' assessment inflamed Democrats, but assuaged many Republicans. It did lead to tough questions from several Republican skeptics, including Sens. John Warner of Virginia and Susan Collins of Maine, but most GOP lawmakers said they were reluctant to impose a firm timetable."
http://www.mercurynews.com/realestatenews/ci_6868850

So, I guess Harry Reid will only listen to the Generals that support the position in HIS mind that he made up long ago.

I am definitely sure that some armchair general politician in Washington knows more about what is going on on the ground in Iraq than a 4 star that lives it every day. We are in serious trouble with clowns like this in power in the US Government. Yikes.....
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Didn't he also just talk to a bunch of BYU students and say that some of the Prophets had led church members astray. Politically I'm guessing otherwise isn't that grounds for Temple Recommend removal?

[BenRaines]

While I don't support him and have never voted for him while living in Nevada what Reid said was after the talk and during a press conference and he was refering to Ezra Taft Benson, the politician, Secretary of Agriculture and not President Benson, the Prophet.



At least that was his later explaination.



Ben Raines

[Moksha]

This was from an article written by Senator Harry Reid on Beliefnet:

My moral compass was ingrained in me as a youth, and without it I would be much less of a person than I am today. Prior to high school, I did not belong to a religious organization and had not attended church. Not for lack of interest, but because in my hometown of Searchlight, Nevada, there were no churches. However, while in high school, I was befriended by a classmate who invited me to attend what was called a seminary program-what many call Bible study--that was held at 6:00 a.m. This was my first exposure to religion, and I continued attending throughout high school. My future wife, Landra, who was Jewish, would also join me in study.

Later, Landra and I enrolled at Utah State University. We were contacted by Mormon missionaries and, on the foundation of those early 6 a.m. classes, were later baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as the Mormons. My faith is both important and deeply personal. I consider my faith and my wife's religious conviction instrumental in helping raise our five children.[/b]

[sgallan]

Didn't he also just talk to a bunch of BYU students and say that some of the Prophets had led church members astray. Politically I'm guessing otherwise isn't that grounds for Temple Recommend removal?

I can see it now..... TR question..... are you a Democrat?...... yes.... no TR for you. I suspect most LDS in Utah would probably be cool with that.

[FrankJL]

I wouldn't limit that thought to Utah, I think that could probably be extended to a lot LDS in the US.