Obama Rallie 20,000 New Yorkers In Manhattan

[Elphaba]

Senator Barack Obama rallied New Yorkers in Washington Square Park in Manhattan Thursday night.

Senator Barack Obama implored thousands of admirers who gathered last night in New York City to set aside their distrust in politics and believe in the long-term possibility of his presidential candidacy even though, he conceded, “there are easier choices to make in this election.”

In a giant rally in the backyard of Senator Hillary Rodham, Mr. Obama, of Illinois, drew distinctions between himself and his leading rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination, insisting that only a fresh candidate could truly change Washington. Twice, he singled out Mrs. Clinton.
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There were folks on the stage that said Social Security is just fine, we don’t have to do anything about it,” Mr. Obama said last night. “There are those who will tell you that getting out of Iraq will be painless, we’ll do it in a snap, not acknowledging that there are no good options in Iraq. There are folks who will shift positions and policies on all kinds of things depending on which way the wind is blowing. That’s not the kind of politics that will deliver on the change we are looking for.”

20,000 rally in New York Washington Square Park in Manhattan

Elphaba

[boyando]

Senator Barack Obama rallied New Yorkers in Washington Square Park in Manhattan Thursday night.

Senator Barack Obama implored thousands of admirers who gathered last night in New York City to set aside their distrust in politics and believe in the long-term possibility of his presidential candidacy even though, he conceded, “there are easier choices to make in this election.”

In a giant rally in the backyard of Senator Hillary Rodham, Mr. Obama, of Illinois, drew distinctions between himself and his leading rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination, insisting that only a fresh candidate could truly change Washington. Twice, he singled out Mrs. Clinton.
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There were folks on the stage that said Social Security is just fine, we don’t have to do anything about it,” Mr. Obama said last night. “There are those who will tell you that getting out of Iraq will be painless, we’ll do it in a snap, not acknowledging that there are no good options in Iraq. There are folks who will shift positions and policies on all kinds of things depending on which way the wind is blowing. That’s not the kind of politics that will deliver on the change we are looking for.”

20,000 rally in New York Washington Square Park in Manhattan

Elphaba
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I know I should be impressed, but I am not.
Although Mr. Obama is more honest then Ms. Clinton, I don't see any ideas that are any different, than our friend from Europe, who think that if you ignore evil, it will go away.

I will now let you, show me were, similar ideas, to Barack's ideas have worked in the past. For example, how has increasing taxes, ever made a program, like Social Security, solvent. All I have ever seen, is, if you give money to the government, there going to spend it. And they will always spend more than you give them.

I apologize, I gave the forum back to you and than prattled on. Your turn.

[Alaskagain]

DERAILING - Just an aside --- about the title "20,000 New Yorkers In Manhattan". . .

Aren't there at least 20,000 New Yorkers in Manhattan every day?

I know, I'm just being a smart alec -- take it the fun spirit it is meant and go on -----

[boyando]

This reminds me of a joke my son told me. Of the leading canidates for President, we have a Mormon, a white Women and a Black Man running for the highest office in the land. If it is our intention to choose a minority, for diversity sake, why don't we all just write in Gladis Knight and get it over with?

[Alaskagain]

This reminds me of a joke my son told me. Of the leading canidates for President, we have a Mormon, a white Women and a Black Man running for the highest office in the land. If it is our intention to choose a minority, for diversity sake, why don't we all just write in Gladis Knight and get it over with?
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:P LOVE it!

[Annabelli]

The people who attend presidential-elect gatherings are usually selected and screened for security clearance, it seems odd that 20,000 people went through the process and how long did that take?

Mitt Romney was in my family home town a few weeks ago and there was a question as to why it was not a public invite. The people who were interested had to make an application and a number was chosen as to how many people were allowed to attend. There was news media about his visit but it did not cover his presentation/speech that he gave.

I think one of the boxes to check off on the application is being a registered voter.

edited to add:

Does the people in that picture not look like a college campus student/faculty gathering?

[Palerider]

I guess I should be impressed...but....I am not.......

[FrankJL]

If a liberal can only rally 20k in Manhattan, thats not much to brag about...

[Elphaba]

I know I should be impressed, but I am not.

Although Mr. Obama is more honest then Ms. Clinton, I don't see any ideas that are any different, than our friend from Europe, who think that if you ignore evil, it will go away.[/b]

"Our friend from Europe"? Who are you talking about?

I will now let you, show me were, similar ideas, to Barack's ideas have worked in the past. For example, how has increasing taxes, ever made a program, like Social Security, solvent. [/b]

When Clinton left office, the Office of Management and Budget projected a surplus of $5,000bn over the next 10 years, enough to pay off the entire Federal debt and fund Social Security, the state pension scheme, for several more decades.

During his tenure as president, he raised taxes one time.

So now I have shown you.

Of course, that surplus was gone the day Bush took office.

All I have ever seen, is, if you give money to the government, there going to spend it. And they will always spend more than you give them.[/b]

And there are some situations that are so large only a large government agency has the capacity to address all of the comprehensive issues. One example would be the recovery of New Orleans from Hurricane Katrina.

Unfortunately, this administration has not the expertise nor, apparently, the motivation, to do so.

Elphaba

If a liberal can only rally 20k in Manhattan, thats not much to brag about...[/b]

True. The difference is that if they're in New York they're usually rallying for Hillary.

To get 20K people in Manhattan to rally for Obama is still an achievement.

Elphaba

[FrankJL]

During his tenure as president, he raised taxes one time.[/b]

Sorry but this is complete and utter nonsense. Pres. Clinton never raised taxes, and inversely Pres. Bush never cut taxes. He can't do it period

Reading Assignment:
US Constitution
* Article 1 Section 7
* Amendment 16

additionally, the idea that presidents have much impact on the economy is fallacious.