Who Wanted The War In Iraq?

[a-train]

Peep This

I just thought that was funny.

-a-train

[prisonchaplain]

Funny or tragic?

[Annabelli]

Thanks for sharing that a-train. I was just thinking about this earlier today. It's not funny to live in a free world where you are threatened. Do I feel differently today now that the fear has been dismantled?

Maybe "weapons of mass distruction" were not found as we would recognize a pile of bombs. But the rein of Saddam was of "mass distruction" to us all whether we lost our lives or not.

I guess if we did not seek a "popular" candidate and get so wrapped up in politial energy, we would learn more about politics and what it is all about. Well, if you really must know, it's some basically boring stuff. Not too many of us could stay awake in a class about government fundalmentals without an energy drink booster and a 5lb bag of sugar to mulch on err make that a dozen donuts err chocolate ones.

Why don't the college prof's run for political office? Would I vote for O'bama again? All he has done since he was elected is Run for President!

If we are going to have to put up with presidential races for four years between elections, I think that we should shorten the length and make the term 6 months or a year. That should bring about some confusion and frustration which conflicts with their personal enterprises. Probably would have to do away with presidential medical/retirement benefits. Maybe we should just contract a president from ManPower.

[Elphaba]

Would I vote for O'bama again?[/b]

Why the apostrophe?

All he has done since he was elected is Run for President! If we are going to have to put up with presidential races for four years between elections, I think that we should shorten the length and make the term 6 months or a year. That should bring about some confusion and frustration which conflicts with their personal enterprises. Probably would have to do away with presidential medical/retirement benefits.[/b]

I agree that far too much time is taken up with politicans campaigning and not fulfilling their elected duties. However, rather than shorten the terms, which I think is what you suggested, I think the solution would be to lengthen the terms. Then perhaps, for example, the president would have two, maybe three years of focusing on being a president rather than a candidate.

Oh, who am I kidding. It would probably just make the campaign last that much longer. bleh

Maybe we should just contract a president from ManPower.[/b]

Elphaba

Peep This[/url]

I just thought that was funny.

-a-train[/b]

I so want to respond to this, but I promise Outshined I wouldn't talk about the war.

Just letting you know what a good girl I am being. :P

Elphaba

[Moksha]

So what does the video mean? That our decisions makers were uniformly misinformed? Did no one ever listen to the CIA reports that there was no confirmation of these weapons. I realize these reports were limited strictly to the executive branch, but in hindsight it seems like they should have been shared to get better input. The UN apparently was able to grasp that there was insufficient compelling evidence for action. Why couldn't we get it right and listen to those reports.

Who wanted the war the most? You probably need to follow the trail of profits from the war for that answer.

[Annabelli]

The evidence found by the US about weapons of mass distruction were documents generated by Iraq's scientist to mislead Saddam into believing that they were creating such weapons. During the UN inspections of Iraq, situations were presented to make it look as if such weapons were being concealed and moved to avoid detection. The inspectors were delayed numerous times attempting to track down suspicious shipments in violation of the UN agreements as to what Iraq could maintain and what was considered hazardous/war potential chemicals. Since the inspectors could not validate an accurate account, Saddam continued to believe that he had weapons of mass distruction as did the rest of the world. The UN simply could not disprove that there were no weapons and did not have access to the documents given to Saddam.

I think the "now" question is why Saddam wanted to build weapons of mass distruction rather than purchase them from other countries like N Korea. Iran is similar in mfg their own weapons. It is an interesting obstacle of war.

[Fiannan]

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

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[drjme]

###### Cheney thought the war was a really bad Idea.... but then changed his mind a few years later
watch the vid for yourself:

98 ###### cheney vs 04 ###### cheney

If he didn't think they war would work back then, why would it work a few years later?

[prisonchaplain]

Maybe there really are a few with access to top secret documents who "know" that Iraq was never a threat. However, lacking definitive proof, I doubt it. My sense is that most governments thought Saddam was making preparations, but nobody wanted to stick their neck out. In this case, the lack of resolve turned out to be the lucky choice--because Saddam was apparently bluffing.

I'm convinced that Bush believed Iraq was stockpiling WMDs and posed a destabilizing threat to the Middle East (yes, including oil supply). Blair believed it. Most countries thought so.

The constant trolling of Bush enemies for stray memos in which anyone might have expressed the slightest reservation, imho, borders on a witch hunt. (Yes, Reps have done so to Democrats too). Who was it that coined the phrase "politics of personal destruction?""

[Palerider]

Maybe there really are a few with access to top secret documents who "know" that Iraq was never a threat. However, lacking definitive proof, I doubt it. My sense is that most governments thought Saddam was making preparations, but nobody wanted to stick their neck out. In this case, the lack of resolve turned out to be the lucky choice--because Saddam was apparently bluffing.

I'm convinced that Bush believed Iraq was stockpiling WMDs and posed a destabilizing threat to the Middle East (yes, including oil supply). Blair believed it. Most countries thought so.

The constant trolling of Bush enemies for stray memos in which anyone might have expressed the slightest reservation, imho, borders on a witch hunt. (Yes, Reps have done so to Democrats too). Who was it that coined the phrase "politics of personal destruction?""
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I agree with you in regards to Bush did believe they had WMD's and I also feel that Clinton knew this also......seems we did not find any....so where did they go during the months when Saddam did not allow anyone in the country????....he had a magician make them disappear....