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View Poll Results: Has your party left you?
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My party hasn't left me, still support what it does
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The Republican Party has left me
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The Democrat Party has left me
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04-24-2008, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fiannan
Wonder if Harry Reid would be ever considered for a place on the Supreme Court. Yes, he's the majority leader of the senate (and a lifelong Democrat) but he is opposed to abortion and the Democratic Party sees abortion as the ultimate litmus test in regards to judicial appointments.
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Reid does not have the legal background or experience to be appointed to the SCOTUS. His career has been mainly in politics.
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04-24-2008, 05:33 AM
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Takes the wind out of your sails to vote for a party that ultimately rejects you because you are Mormon, does it not?
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You know, it really wasn't all that crap either with Huckabee and the others. The same thing would have happened in the Dem party, I'm sure. It is more that there is not difference btw Repubs and Dems anymore except for one thing, kind of, and that is the war.
I talked with the cabbie on Tuesday as I was heading to the airport. He was a political refugee from Iraq, escaping during the reign of Saddam. Saddam had killed his mother and brother for political reasons. He was disgusted with the way the media and the parties are fighting about what is happening over in Iraq. He said the Iraq is so much better that it was during Saddam's reign, that the soldiers, except for a small area in Iraq, are very well liked and trusted, etc., and yet we NEVER see any part of that. And the Repubs are a bunch of spineless wonders that don't tell the Libs to shut up, that don't challenge the pilf that is passed off as 'journalism' but these left wing kooks as propoganda, etc.
Anyway, I didn't care that they rejected Mitt. Having lived in the South for so long, that is par for the course. Friendliest people I know, and I will retire there because I like them, but I also know that they are taught in church that I, being a Mormon, am going straight to hell...
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04-24-2008, 10:11 AM
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I don't consider myself a member of any party. I'll vote for whatever viable contender tramples on my rights the least.
LM
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If I were rich, I'd have the time that I lack, to sit in the synagogue and pray.
And maybe have a seat by the Eastern wall.
And I'd discuss the holy books with the learned men, several hours every day.
That would be the sweetest thing of all.
Ohhh....
If I were a rich man...
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04-24-2008, 12:57 PM
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Sometimes I'm concerned that the grassy fields of my party have faded and grown some weeds. Then, I look over the fence at the other side, and see only concrete, which the birds use for "target practice." No...my party has not left me.
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04-24-2008, 01:52 PM
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I can't vote in your poll. I do not belong to any party . I use to be republican but can not totally align myself with any party at this time. I do care very deeply and in my perspective they both should be done away with  I study and pray and vote who I think might do the best but any more does my vote in the end really count???????
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04-24-2008, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Elphaba
It is true the founding fathers did not expect to have political parties.
However, strong and vicious disagreements between Hamilton and his followers, and Jefferson/Madison and their followers created the first political parties.
Followers of Hamilton called themselves Federalists, and followers of Jefferson/Madison called themselves Democratic-Republicans.
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Indeed, and the Dem-Reps formed their party to oppose the economic and foreign policy of the Federalists five years after the Constitution was adopted. They cited that Hamilton's proposals especially about having a national bank, were unconstitutional. Funny how the Democratic-Republican party didn't last long and divided into the two main parties that exist today.
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When asked if they would still pull the troops out of Iraq even if all their best advisors and generals told them to do so would result in chaos and more death in the middle east both the democrats said they's still pull them out.
The Republican candidate spent years as a POW and was offered the chance to go home but stayed in the POW camp because not all the other Americans could leave with him...
No one likes war but guess what we dont live in Heaven yet.....
if you vote Dem...then I hope you like speaking Arabic and living in a socialist country.
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War is often the unfortunate price of peace and security. Interesting that while the war on terror has continued all these years, there have been no more attacks on the U.S. and Iraq is better off today.
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I don't consider myself a member of any party. I'll vote for whatever viable contender tramples on my rights the least.
Fair enough..... looking over your votes for the past decade or so what Party has gotten the lions share?
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War is often the unfortunate price of peace and security. Interesting that while the war on terror has continued all these years, there have been no more attacks on the U.S. and Iraq is better off today.
So you are one of those "scared" one hundred year type occupation guys?
Americans are such wimps..... in WWII, and in Darfur now (along with other countries), thousands die everyday. Millions died in general. Heck, even many hundreds of thousands of Americans. But a handful of terrorists kill a few thousand of us, and we spend a trillion dollars, and occupy a land that wasn't even part of the original attack, as a reaction? Goodness gracious, no wonder we seem to be a fading nation.
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