American Family Asociation's Christmas "Ornament"

[DeborahC]

Hmmm... I thought it was a pretty good question...

[KristofferUmfrey]

Sweet, so I have two ladies that are never going to look at my posts objectively again! Maybe you can start a "Hate Kris" committee.
Good to know that there are others who can move on when someone realizes they were a bit out of hand, apologizes, and tries to do better. But I guess not everybody is so generous.

[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by KristofferUmfrey

Sweet, so I have two ladies that are never going to look at my posts objectively again! Maybe you can start a "Hate Kris" committee.
Good to know that there are others who can move on when someone realizes they were a bit out of hand, apologizes, and tries to do better. But I guess not everybody is so generous.

Oh wah.

Quit being such a wuss. No one hates you.

We debate here. If you don't want to do that that's fine. But if you post something I disagree with, then we disagree.

And personally, I can't let that slide, because I'm obnoxious.

Elphaba

[Wingnut]

Originally Posted by KristofferUmfrey

Sweet, so I have two ladies that are never going to look at my posts objectively again! Maybe you can start a "Hate Kris" committee.
Good to know that there are others who can move on when someone realizes they were a bit out of hand, apologizes, and tries to do better. But I guess not everybody is so generous.

I haven't been looking at your posts objectively for some time. Most of what I've seen you post on here is absurd.

[KristofferUmfrey]

Originally Posted by Wingnut

I haven't been looking at your posts objectively for some time.

No kidding. I will continue to objectively evaluate everyone's posts even those I have disagreements with (ok, except for maybe Venkman).

[MarginOfError]

Originally Posted by KristofferUmfrey

No kidding. I will continue to objectively evaluate everyone's posts even those I have disagreements with (ok, except for maybe Venkman).

You mean like when you looked at this objectively

or when you replied to this one so objectively

or how about when you studied this so thoroughly and with objectivity.

For someone who is so objective you have a terrible case of know-it-all syndrome.

[KristofferUmfrey]

Originally Posted by MarginOfError

You mean like when you looked at this objectively

or when you replied to this one so objectively

or how about when you studied this so thoroughly and with objectivity.

For someone who is so objective you have a terrible case of know-it-all syndrome.

When were these posts made? Apparently you have chosen to ignore my mea culpa from yesterday... Let me post it here...

"I can be brash, rude, blunt, upfront, obnoxious, and kind of a jerk sometimes. I do apologize. I'll try to tone it down a bit and calmly explain what I believe and why I believe it from the Bible and Book of Mormon from now on."

But hey, by all means, hold a grudge, continue contention, and berate me until you are satisfied. I will stick by my promise to try and behave a little better in here.

[MarginOfError]

Another stellar example.

[KristofferUmfrey]

As are you my friend, as are you.

[Gwen]

back on topic boys.

Originally Posted by Elphaba

Hello my friend.

I am not saying the people in Mississippi are at fault, or that they're not fairly tame (a great word to use, btw). I am not saying the AFA's employees are guilty of purposely buying a product because it could evoke the image of the burning cross. I don't think the AFA was being malicious at all.

However, I do not believe the residents of Mississippi are oblivious to its contribution to the horror of terrorizing black Americans. The three examples I gave are the most notorious and well-known. But they are not the only incidents.

Additionally, I grew up in So. CA, where I never saw any white supremacist groups burning any crosses. Yet, as Wing said, I have read history books that included the history of the civil rights movement and the KKK.

So, if I knew about them, why wouldn't Mississippi’s citizens know about them as well? Especially since the state's relatively recent history was rife with this violent hate.

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Elphie

you are assuming the ppl of mississippi know their history as well as you do. as a society we have a tendency to live in the "grass is greener" mind set. i live an hour from selma. anyone that paid attention in history class while studying the civil rights movement will know what that means.

my stepson in 5th grade spent the entire school yr learning about new orleans history.. they even took an over night field trip there. some schools are taking field trips to new york and learning all about it's history. i have no idea why they do this. ask half the kids around here what is in selma and they will have little knowledge. i'd be thrilled if they even recognise the name.

on the other hand my nephew (from ut) came with grandma to my house for a visit and they had to drive through selma. he looked out the window, saw the sign saying where they were and got very curious "selma, the selma i learned about in history...." so on the way home they stopped at all the little museaums etc there that are dedicated to their history. (that was an experiance all it's own i'll exclude here.)

my point, yes i have one, is that in the south we learn about yall. many don't learn their own history and are lucky to remember what little they did learn once they leave school. other places aparently learn about our sordid ugly southern history. it's cool i can live with it.

it's possible they really didn't see it. i think the true measure is how they handle it now that it's been pointed out. will they stand up or ignore it... do let us know if they respond to your email.