Is race really an issue right now?

[TeancumsSword]

For all you that have given into the liberal lie that we are all a bunch of racist rednecks who should be punished for our transgressions, I offer the following by black author Shelby Steele...

White Guilt: How Blacks and Whites ... - Google Book Search

[MarginOfError]

Originally Posted by TeancumsSword

For all you that have given into the liberal lie that we are all a bunch of racist rednecks who should be punished for our transgressions, I offer the following by black author Shelby Steele...

White Guilt: How Blacks and Whites ... - Google Book Search

Who exactly are you accusing of having 'given into the lie?'

[applepansy]

Originally Posted by Wingnut

As recently as 2006, President Hinckley acknowledged that some of the members of the church were racist. He reprimanded them, saying:

Now I am told that racial slurs and denigrating remarks are sometimes heard among us. I remind you that no man who makes disparaging remarks concerning those of another race can consider himself a true disciple of Christ. Nor can he consider himself to be in harmony with the teachings of the Church of Christ.

I'm currently reading a book called The Freedom Writers Diary. While it is about overcoming prejudices, it's awfully hard to read it and believe that racism doesn't exist.

Have you seen the movie "The Freedom Writers"? Its very good.

applepansy

[Wingnut]

Originally Posted by applepansy

Have you seen the movie "The Freedom Writers"? Its very good.

applepansy

That's why I picked up the book. Fabulous movie, great book.

[TeancumsSword]

Originally Posted by MarginOfError

Who exactly are you accusing of having 'given into the lie?'

No one exactly. All those who have bought into the lie, only those who have can determine that. But because the have bought into the lie they may not realize they have bought into the lie. So I think everyone should go look at the book.

[Elgama]

we know Rascism happens in the church - Sister Okazaki wrote about her experiences admittedly years ago, but as recently as 6 months ago a Sister posted on this board she was in a mixed raced marriage and wanted to know how different wards in an area would receive her husband and children because of previous bad experience.

Its not just black vs white - heck here it can be Scots vs English at times. Then we have issues with Eastern Europeans. I have yet to encounter much but I do know it happens.

My Mum was unaware of racism in the city she grew up in it was only later she realised that the city centre shops refused to serve black people creating an unoffcial apartheid.

-Charley

[DeborahC]

Teancums,

You know, those "stoning laws" from Leviticus.. you either have to take them ALL or drop them ALL. You can't pick and choose the ones you like.

For instance,

"While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day ... And The Lord said to Moses, "The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp." (Numbers 15:32,35 RSV)


Honestly, would you stone to death someone who picked up firewood on a Sunday?

20:9 Any person who curses his father or mother shall therefore be put to death. Since he has cursed his father or mother, he shall be stoned to death.

20:10 If a man commits adultery with a married woman, [and] she is the wife of a fellow [Israelite], both the adulterer and adulteress shall be put to death.

20:27 Any man or woman who is involved in [the practices of] the mediums or oracles shall be put to death. They shall be pelted to death with stones, and thus stoned to death.

And are we going to stone every teenager who says they hate their parents?
Or every adulterer or adulteress?
Or Sylvia Brown or John Whatshisname?

I'm sorry... but using those texts as your byline make me question your judgment.
Just thought I'd say... sorry if it offends you...

It's just that I seem to remember Jesus saying, "Woman, where are thy accusers?" AFTER saying, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..."




::: picking up all the loose stones and hiding them behind Jesus ::::

[TeancumsSword]

Originally Posted by DeborahC

Teancums,

You know, those "stoning laws" from Leviticus.. you either have to take them ALL or drop them ALL. You can't pick and choose the ones you like.

For instance,

"While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day ... And The Lord said to Moses, "The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp." (Numbers 15:32,35 RSV)


Honestly, would you stone to death someone who picked up firewood on a Sunday?

20:9 Any person who curses his father or mother shall therefore be put to death. Since he has cursed his father or mother, he shall be stoned to death.

20:10 If a man commits adultery with a married woman, [and] she is the wife of a fellow [Israelite], both the adulterer and adulteress shall be put to death.

20:27 Any man or woman who is involved in [the practices of] the mediums or oracles shall be put to death. They shall be pelted to death with stones, and thus stoned to death.

And are we going to stone every teenager who says they hate their parents?
Or every adulterer or adulteress?
Or Sylvia Brown or John Whatshisname?

I'm sorry... but using those texts as your byline make me question your judgment.
Just thought I'd say... sorry if it offends you...

It's just that I seem to remember Jesus saying, "Woman, where are thy accusers?" AFTER saying, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..."




::: picking up all the loose stones and hiding them behind Jesus ::::

I don't get offended, mainly because I don't care what people think.

Since you seem in search of an explanation...

They are there to remind those joyfully engaging in practices of sin and those who support them, how lucky they are for Jesus' atonement and to live in a country that tolerates their perversions to the extent that it does.

Oh, I'm about to change it anyways.

[MarginOfError]

Originally Posted by TeancumsSword

No one exactly. All those who have bought into the lie, only those who have can determine that. But because the have bought into the lie they may not realize they have bought into the lie. So I think everyone should go look at the book.

Sounds like you own stock in the publishing company

[ADoyle90815]

Originally Posted by applepansy

Have you seen the movie "The Freedom Writers"? Its very good.

applepansy

I have some issues with that movie, as the high school where that teacher worked at was not an inner-city school. It's actually in a middle-class area and had I lived across a certain street, I would have attended there. I went there for football games and felt completely safe when I was there.

As for the original topic, racism is still a part of society today, but in my area, it's also directed towards Hispanics, not just African-Americans. In the real inner-city schools in my district, the racial fights have been between African-Americans and Hispanics.