FLDS aren't welfare cheats after all.

[Fiannan]

Facts don't fit claims of FLDS welfare fraud - Salt Lake Tribune

Well, I suppose this kinda hurts senator Reid's (Zombie, Nevada) efforts to persecute Mormon polygamist groups. Isn't there anything else our estemed senate majority leader can focus his attentions on?

[Moksha]

So as the article says, they are on government assistance programs, but they are not committing fraud, because that ratio of income to children legally entitles them for such assistance.

[Fiannan]

Originally Posted by Moksha

So as the article says, they are on government assistance programs, but they are not committing fraud, because that ratio of income to children legally entitles them for such assistance.

Which is as legal as BYU students living in married housing getting WICK assistance for families. It's not fraud. Also, why are some people trying to prevent the FLDS from getting government contracts so they can earn money to support themselves?

Seriously, doesn't Reid have enough to do trying to keep the USA from becoming a third world nation within the next couple of years? And if he wants to look into shady deals maybe he could direct some energy into what takes place in Chicago and Las Vegas -- not that there's ever been a connection in any respect to these two cities, no, not in the least.

[a-train]

Doesn't the welfare state just make America great!

-a-train

[MarginOfError]

So because they engage in illegal marriage practices and have far more children than they have resources to support, there must be no wrongdoing in their claims for government assistance? Oh, except that they're breaking the law in a manner that forces them to rely on government assistance.

[Moksha]

Originally Posted by Fiannan

Seriously, doesn't Reid have enough to do trying to keep the USA from becoming a third world nation within the next couple of years?

I suspect he truly believed that they had committed massive fraud. The best he really could point out is now is that while such government programs are designed to not let the children starve, they have helped the Polygamists perpetuate their lifestyle.

Maybe Reid is saying, "Enough with that polygamy stuff, knock it off already", since he has heard of the same child bride/Lost boys/ecclesiastical abuse stuff that we all have.

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[Moksha]

Originally Posted by a-train

Doesn't the welfare state just make America great!

-a-train

They do tend to make life not so nasty, short and brutish for "those" people. Doesn't mean we still can't resent the heck out of them for lessening our schadenfreude.

[Fiannan]

Originally Posted by MarginOfError

So because they engage in illegal marriage practices and have far more children than they have resources to support, there must be no wrongdoing in their claims for government assistance? Oh, except that they're breaking the law in a manner that forces them to rely on government assistance.

Strange we never hear of this in reference to how much the government has to pay for HIV due to people engaging in homosexuality and IV drug use. At least the FLDS are following God's commandments, and the teachings of LDS leaders, and trying to bring spirits into the world.

The mainstream LDS in many cases could learn a thing or two fromt he FLDS. Maybe then we wouldn't be seeing shrinkage of the Church in so many places around the world.

Also, while technically polygamy is not legal in the USA sharing a male and having his children is not illegal, so in essence the wives and children are not breaking any laws. I am remended of a case in Utah where a cop became a polygamist and took a second wife. His boss told him that if he would not call the second wife a "wife" there would be no trouble but he refused on principle and was fired. I guess it's pretty silly that any guy on these boards could take a mistress in addition to his wife (except in Texas where you can't technically have two women under the same roof that you are having sex with) and as long as he called the second woman his mistress the law can't touch him.

You just know in the near future some kooky DA will go after a man with more than one wife and it'll reach the supreme court on appeal and the court will strike down laws against polygamy. I wouldn't doubt this wil come soon and since Obama will appoint justices who support gay marriage these new liberal justices might team up with the more conservative libertarians like Scalia and Thomas and gut these laws.

[Fiannan]

Originally Posted by Moksha

I suspect he truly believed that they had committed massive fraud. The best he really could point out is now is that while such government programs are designed to not let the children starve, they have helped the Polygamists perpetuate their lifestyle.

Maybe Reid is saying, "Enough with that polygamy stuff, knock it off already", since he has heard of the same child bride/Lost boys/ecclesiastical abuse stuff that we all have.

.

Perhaps, but shouldn't he know better by now and not have fallen for the sensationalistic stuff that has been countered quite effectively this last year?

Perhaps Reid is suffering from Stockhom Syndrome -- as are other Mormons who have taken up the cause of people like Gov. Boggs and the government officials who made it their goal to persecute the LDS in the 19th. Century.

[ruthiechan]

Wait, there are Mormons who support Gov. Boggs? That just, well, boggles my mind!

(Pun intended.)