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Old 10-03-2009, 01:50 AM
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I will clarify: JF Smith was THE Prophet of the church. Bro Nibley, while a great intellect and one of my favorite authors, was not. That was my point, but I think you knew that.

My point was to point out to Belledame that Bro Nibley did not smack JF Smith in the face, but had in fact stated something quite different. Also, as The Prophet of the church at the time I would tend to follow what he said/taught, in spite of what someone without that office would say.

As for Eugene England, having never heard of him, I can't say one way or the other what to think of his thoughts. I did see that he was censured in a letter by Elder McConkie at one time, again, about what and why I don't know, but I will take what he has to say with a small grain of salt...
Then you should know what the issue was. England was chastised by Elder McConkie because England espoused a view of eternal progression that was also espoused by President Brigham Young - that came originally from Joseph Smith in the King Follett Discourse. In his chastisement Elder McConkie said: "It is your province to echo what I say or to remain silent."

You may recall that Elder McConkie was formally chastised by the Church for his own errors relating to promulgation of incorrect doctrine and later (and unrelated to the formal chastisement), issued a formal apology for his own errors on other doctrine relating to the priesthood.

btw... as it turns out both Eugene England and Brigham Young are ahead of Elder McConkie on a ranking of Mormon intellectuals who have influenced LDS thinking... and Joseph Smith ahead of both of them.
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