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Does anyone else find the placement of the robe, and position of hands on this Buddah interesting... and perhaps vaguely familiar?

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7 Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?
8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.
9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.
10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.
11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written.
12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it.
13 And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 29:7 - 13)



concerning "and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it"

and "shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel"

so... The Bible = words of Jews, BoM words of Nephites, what are the words of the lost tribes? Are they already written down? Can we read them? When will they be accepted as official scriptures?


from:
How Mormons Are Buddhists & Vice Versa at Mormon Matters

Matthew 10:39 - [H]e that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
The Bhagavad Gita – “Through selfless service, you will always be fruitful and find the fulfillment of your desires”: this is the promise of the Creator.
Matt 5:44 – [B]less them that curse you, do good to them that hate you.
The Dhammapada – Let us live in joy, never hating those who hate us.

Mark 9:35 - If any man desire to be first, the same shall be last of all, and servant of all.
Tao Te Ching – If the sage wants to be above the people, in his words, he must put himself below them; If he wishes to be before the people, in his person, he must stand behind them.


Matthew 7:3 – And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
The Dhammapada – Do not give your attention to what others do or fail to do; give it to what you do or fail to do.

Luke 6:38 - Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom.
Tao Te Ching – The sage does not hoard. The more he does for others, the more he has himself; The more he gives to others, the more his own bounty increases.

Proverbs 23:7 - For as [a man] thinketh in his heart, so is he.
The Dhammapada – [W]e become what we think.

John 14:15, 15:4,10 – If ye love me, keep my commandments. Abide in me . . . . If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love.
The Bhagavad Gita– [T]hose who worship me with love live in me, and I come to life in them.

Proverbs 15:1- A soft answer turneth away wrath.
The Dhammapada – Speak quietly to everyone, and they too will be gentle in their speech.
Luke 14:11 - For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Tao Te Ching – The unyielding and mighty shall be brought low; the soft, supple, and delicate will be set above.

Proverbs 16:32 - He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.
The Dhammapada – One who conquers himself is greater than another who conquers a thousand times a thousand men on the battlefield.

D&C 38:16 - . . . I am no respecter of persons.
The Bhagavad Gita – . . . none are less dear to me and none are more dear.

2 Nephi 26:22 – [Y]ea, and [the devil] leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever.
The Dhammapada – Little by little a person becomes evil, as a water pot is filled by drops of water.

D&C 93:29 - Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.
The Bhagavad Gita – There never has been a time when you . . . have not existed, nor will there be a time when we will cease to exist. The body is mortal, but he who dwells in the body is immortal and immeasurable.

Mosiah 4:30 – [I]f ye do not watch yourselves, and your thoughts, and your words, and your deeds, . . . ye must perish.
The Dhammapada – Guard your thoughts, words, and deeds. These three disciplines will speed you along the path to pure wisdom.

[hordak]

Originally Posted by changed

Does anyone else find the placement of the robe, and position of hands on this Buddah interesting... and perhaps vaguely familiar?

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Yes.

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LOL hordak - it's cropping up everywhere!

so... concerning "and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it"

and "shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel"

Who are the lost tribes, and what have they written?

[hordak]

Originally Posted by changed

LOL hordak - it's cropping up everywhere!

so... concerning "and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it"

and "shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel"

Who are the lost tribes, and what have they written?

It's interesting.I have seen the above quotes used to support the idea that Jesus was a Buddhist/ borrowed Buddhist teachings but never that the Buddha had the gospel.

Normally when i hear about the lost tribes it's never a people here and attributed to non observable people living in arctic circle, living in the hollow earth or taken by ufos, yes ufos. . I think the idea of lost tribes being "lost" as in can't remember/don't know makes more sense then the ideas above (in my book). I don't know about Buddhism though.

I have actually been reading a book by the Dalia Lama in which he talks about how one person shouldn't get attached to another because friends and relatives are not permanent, by being attached to them you destroy the possibility of finding liberty and contribute to the attachment of others.
This seems to be quite opposite from the families can be together for ever that Mormonism teaches.

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Originally Posted by hordak

I have actually been reading a book by the Dalia Lama in which he talks about how one person shouldn't get attached to another because friends and relatives are not permanent, by being attached to them you destroy the possibility of finding liberty and contribute to the attachment of others.
This seems to be quite opposite from the families can be together for ever that Mormonism teaches.

There are different definitions of “attachment” …. dependency is a bad form of attachment and should be avoided. Teachings of being without desire - I agree with a lot of it. Live without personal desire to me = "Thy will be done". Having a family should not take away the liberty of those who are in the family... if people are trying to control, manipulate, own one another, take away agency of one another, that is unhealthy. I think that Buddhists enjoy one another, but don't try to control/manipulate one another - and so have more meaningful relashonships. JMO.

If you love something, set it free .

Quotes adopted from the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tsu… I think we could learn a lot from them about how to control our wants/desires, and live in contentment with what is.

The sage wears rough clothing and holds the jewel in her heart.
The more she does for others, the more she has.
The more she gives to others, the greater her abundance.
The sage knows herself, but makes no show,
Has self-respect, but is not arrogant.
The sage works without recognition.
She achieves what has to be done without dwelling on it.
She lets go of that,
and chooses this.

Dare to not be ahead of others.
Accept being unimportant.
Do not be concerned with loss or gain.
Why is the sea king of a hundred streams?
(Why does all water flow to the oceans?)
Because it lies below them all.

Empty yourself of everything.
Empty and be full..
Shape clay into a vessel;
It is the space within that makes it useful.
Cut doors and window for a room;
It is the holes which make it useful.
Usefulness (comes) from what is not there.

She who knows that enough is enough will always have enough.
She who grasps, loses.

The sage.. though there are beautiful things to be seen,
remains unattached and calm.
If you try to hold it, you will lose it.

[hordak]

Originally Posted by changed

There are different definitions of “attachment” …. dependency is a bad form of attachment and should be avoided. Teachings of being without desire - I agree with a lot of it. Live without personal desire to me = "Thy will be done". Having a family should not take away the liberty of those who are in the family... if people are trying to control, manipulate, own one another, take away agency of one another, that is unhealthy. I think that Buddhists enjoy one another, but don't try to control/manipulate one another - and so have more meaningful relashonships. JMO.

If you love something, set it free .

Quotes adopted from the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tsu… I think we could learn a lot from them about how to control our wants/desires, and live in contentment with what is.

The sage wears rough clothing and holds the jewel in her heart.
The more she does for others, the more she has.
The more she gives to others, the greater her abundance.
The sage knows herself, but makes no show,
Has self-respect, but is not arrogant.
The sage works without recognition.
She achieves what has to be done without dwelling on it.
She lets go of that,
and chooses this.

Dare to not be ahead of others.
Accept being unimportant.
Do not be concerned with loss or gain.
Why is the sea king of a hundred streams?
(Why does all water flow to the oceans?)
Because it lies below them all.

Empty yourself of everything.
Empty and be full..
Shape clay into a vessel;
It is the space within that makes it useful.
Cut doors and window for a room;
It is the holes which make it useful.
Usefulness (comes) from what is not there.

She who knows that enough is enough will always have enough.
She who grasps, loses.

The sage.. though there are beautiful things to be seen,
remains unattached and calm.
If you try to hold it, you will lose it.

Don't get me wrong, I too think Buddhism has some great wisdom. However if they were the lost tribe i would expect more similarity in the teachings. While how to live ones life now is pretty in sink with some of the teachings of Jesus some "big" views, especially on the afterlife vary vastly. Reincarnation vs Heaven, God vs No God, Rain on the just and unjust vs karma.

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One more thing someone just showed me...

Life of St Issa - SkepticWiki

The Life of St Issa purports to be an account of the life of Jesus, including, most controversially, an account of the “lost years” of Jesus; which it explains by giving an account of Jesus travelling in India during that period.

[edit] Note on the “lost years of Jesus”
The Bible misses out a whole chunk of Jesus’ life, between the age of 12 [1] and “about 30” [2], known as the “lost years”. These "lost years" have always been a magnet for cranks. The Life of St Issa purports to fill in the “lost years” between the ages of 14 and 29.

[edit] Nicholas Notovitch
The story begins with Nicholas Notovitch (1858 - ?), a Russian journalist and historian. According to his account, he travelled though Tibet in 1887-88. Having broken his leg, he convalesced in the Buddhist monastery of Himis (sometimes spelt Hemis) with a broken leg; gaining the confidence of the lama there, he had read to him, as he healed, a book of the “Life of St Issa” (that is, Jesus) from which he made notes.

His other works are standard historical fare, with titles such as The Pacification of Europe and Nicholas II; Russia and the English Alliance: An Historical and Political Study; and The Czar: His Army and Navy.


Chapter I, by way of a prologue, speaks of a “great crime committed in the land of Israel; for they have tortured and put to death the great and just Issa, in whom dwelt the soul of the universe”.

Chapters II – III contain a very condensed version of the history of Israel, in which the chief events are the exodus from Egypt, led by “Prince Mossa” (i.e. Moses) and the invasion of Israel by “pagans from the country of Romeles” (i.e. the Roman conquest).

Chapter IV recounts the birth of Jesus and “the discourses proceeding from his childish mouth” (compare Luke 2:40-47 [3])

In Chapters V – VIII, we go completely off the Biblical rails. These chapters recount Jesus travelling in India and Persia. He preaches monotheism, denounces idolatry, sun-worship and animal sacrifice, and prefers the lower castes of Hindus to the higher castes. He refuses to perform miracles, saying: “The miracles of our God have been worked since the first day when the universe was created; they take place every day and at every moment”.

Chapters IX-XIV recount Jesus’ return to Israel, his ministry there, and his crucifixion; and ends with the apostles “scatter[ing] themselves among the heathen, preaching that they should renounce their errors.”

There are three features of this account noteworthy as not paralleling the gospels.

(1) There is a lengthy passage where Jesus talks about the importance of respect for women; this is most of Chapter XII. It has no parallel in the Gospels.

(2) In the Life of St Issa, it is made quite clear that the Jews don’t want Jesus condemned and that Pontius Pilate does; to the extent that the Jewish elders are said to have gone out and

... washed their hands in a sacred vessel, saying: “We are innocent of the death of this just man.
This is the exact opposite of the scene portrayed in the Gospels, where the Jewish elders demand the death of Jesus, and it is Pontius Pilate who publicly washes his hands.

(3) While the Life of St Issa recounts that:

The next day the crowd found the tomb open and empty. At once the rumor spread that the supreme Judge had sent his angels to carry away the mortal remains of the saint in whom dwelt on earth a part of the Divine Spirit
there is nothing in the text that hints at the physical resurrection of Jesus.

The Lost Years of Jesus: The Life of Saint Issa - Notovitch

According to wiki:Ten Lost Tribes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Historical background
After the civil war in the time of Solomon's son Rehoboam, ten tribes split off from the United Monarchy to create the northern Kingdom of Israel.

These were the nine landed tribes Zebulun, Issachar, Asher, Naphtali, Dan, Manasseh, Ephraim, Reuben and Gad, and some members of Levi who had no land allocation. The Bible makes no reference at this point to the Tribe of Simeon, and some[who?] believe that the tribe had already disappeared due to the curse of Jacob. (Genesis 49:5-7)[citation needed]

Judah, the southern kingdom, had Jerusalem as its capital and was ruled by King Rehoboam. It was populated by the tribes of Judah and Benjamin (and also by some members of Levi and by the remnants of Simeon).

In 722 BCE the Assyrians under Shalmaneser V and then under Sargon II conquered the northern Kingdom of Israel, destroyed its capital Samaria and sent the Israelites into exile and captivity in Khorason[citation needed], now part of eastern Iran and western Afghanistan. The Ten Lost Tribes are those Israelites who were deported by the Assyrians. In Jewish popular culture, the ten tribes disappeared from history, leaving only the tribes of Benjamin and Judah to become the ancestors of modern day Jews.

In 597 BCE the nation of Judah was conquered by Babylon, and in 587 began the forced Judean exile. About 50 years later, in 537 BCE, the Persians (who had conquered Babylon in 539 BCE) allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the Temple. It is speculated, however, that by the end of this era, members of the tribes seem to have abandoned their individual identities in favor of a common one.[citation needed]

Some evidence of continuing identity of Jewish individuals in later centuries can be seen from the Gospels, where an individual is identified with the tribe of Asher. Thus, some descendants of the twelve tribes must have returned in the centuries following the Babylonian captivity.

so the lost tribes became lost around 560 BC...


THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA
Buddhism is one of the major religions in the world. It began around 2,500 years ago in India when Siddhartha Gautama discovered how to bring happiness into the world. He was born around 566 BC, in the small kingdom of Kapilavastu...

Interesting, Buddhism stars at just about the exact same time the tribes become lost...

Did any of the lost tribes end up in India?

If Jesus paid a visit to India during the lost years, why did he choose to go to India?

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this is also interesting.
Zoroastrianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Generally_Me]

Originally Posted by hordak

Don't get me wrong, I too think Buddhism has some great wisdom. However if they were the lost tribe i would expect more similarity in the teachings. While how to live ones life now is pretty in sink with some of the teachings of Jesus some "big" views, especially on the afterlife vary vastly. Reincarnation vs Heaven, God vs No God, Rain on the just and unjust vs karma.

After 2000 years you expect them to be the same as in the beginning? It only took the Native Americans 400 years to lose the traditions Jesus taught them. There was next to nothing recognizable as Christianity when the Europeans came here.

Note: I always understood that the lost tribes were just other people who scattered across the earth and integrated with whomever was already there (aka after the tower of Babel). Wasn't aware they were living in the middle of the earth, Arctic circle, or with aliens...?

[wildbean98]

Jesus taught love. Buddha taught bliss. Jesus taught heart chakra. Buddha taught mind chakra.

The Buddha did not teach people how to be happy. He taught them how to not suffer. Happiness and sadness cannot exist without each other. Bliss is the state one has achieved when all suffering has been removed.

Sixth Chakra:*Agnya

In India I am known as Mahavishnu. But when I came to this Earth, I was crucified. My Message is that of Resurrection, to show you that you are the Eternal Spirit and not your body or your thoughts. I was born in a manger to show you that the Spirit within you has nothing to do with money, material comfort or power — it is all powerful, all-pervading and eternal. Forgiving those who would have killed Me, I have opened in the Cosmos and within your being a narrow passage on the path which leads you beyond to God. When the Spirit is awakened in you by Kundalini, you are born again, and cross this Gate. Then you enter the Realm of Divine Awareness, becoming a child in the Kingdom of God.