Psychics

[Tarnished]

Still, until you hit menopause and it is impossible for you to have children you can't claim that it is never going to happen. And even then the possibility to adopt is still there. You can be sealed to adopted children, they become part of your eternal family. I don't think we can discount a patriarchal blessing until we are basically dead.

[pam]

I'm not sure you can discount it even when dead.

[pam]

Again..couldn't having children in THIS LIFE also mean adoptions. It doesn't always necessarily mean that you yourself will bear them.

[beefche]

Originally Posted by Soul_Searcher

beefche I think people who say that are insensitive and arrogant. I feel for u . Ive had some stinky comments too-'When ru gonna have kids then?' 'DH isnt firing blanks is he? (Uh yes as a matter of fact)

I think ur reasons for why ur patriarchal blessing hasn't come to pass make me feel a bit sorry for u. I really dont mean this in a patronising way, but I think you are desperately clinging onto interpreting it any way possible, as you know there's a possibility it wont happen. If someone says, 'I'll be there at 7.30' and they dont turn up they dont say, well i never said PM or I didnt specify a date. Of course not! If you are told something fairly specific, that is what you expect. THIS LIFE means mortal life, we all as members use that phrase we all know what it means. It means NOW.

I know its difficult to confront the reality that ur patriarchal blessing might not be fulfilled. But that's the reality. I dont see seeing a psychic who may be wrong as any different.

Well, I'll take your sympathy. I don't mind.

Look, you do whatever you wish. If you think seeing a psychic will bring to pass the promises promised by God, then do so. I will never be convinced that psychics replace God's established pattern for revelation.

Also, it's not my interpretation of the patriarchal blessing that they are for the eternities. Here's a talk in General Conference from a prophet. I'll rely on his words. Oh, out of the mouth of 2 witnesses.

[pam]

I'm seriously having a sense of dejavu with some comments made on this thread. I need to do some research on something.

[Misshalfway]

Well God hasn't always helped me in answering prayers a lot of the time so I dont want to put my trust in him and then be disappointed when he doesn't listen or answer. It really knocked my faith before, and as my faith is fairly fragile at the minute I dont want to risk it getting knocked further

Well, if its any consolation, you aren't alone in these feelings and you aren't the only one who wonders about the promises of God. To me, it kinda feels like a betrayal to be promised and led to something and then to trust it with such child like faith only to feel like the blessing isn't realized or even the exact opposite of the promise comes instead. And very hard to pray and feel like ones prayers aren't heard or answered. Makes one feel stupid for trusting in the first place.

The Lord promised me something in my blessing and in a whole list of spiritual promptings surrounding one circumstance. I believed and obeyed without question and the entire opposite situation happened. Why all the pain? Why all the years of struggle? Why succor me and pull the rug out from under me?

This is what I know now as I look back. God was ALWAYS there through every step of it even if I didn't recognize it. I thought he was blessing me with one or two things. Now I see that all the pain was to carve out space for blessings. Now.....I have a long way to go before reallizing my promises but they are absolutely starting to come. And I am seeing how God is not only blessing me with my desires but he is changing who I am in preparation for those blessings. I don't know if I will ever feel the full measure of the blessings I hoped and prayed for. But He promised me and He IS showing me that I can trust him. Doing so just looks and feels different than it did at first and I am more able to now even though I can't see or feel the evidence of it.

All I can guess is that maybe your situation is not just about what you want but what you need. Maybe God knows that if He intervenes too soon that you won't learn the lessons you need to.

I don't know. Just a few random thoughts.

[beefche]

Originally Posted by Tarnished

Still, until you hit menopause and it is impossible for you to have children you can't claim that it is never going to happen.

Tarnished, tell that to Sarah and Hannah. Oh, and Elizabeth.

[Tarnished]

Originally Posted by beefche

Tarnished, tell that to Sarah and Hannah. Oh, and Elizabeth.

True they all had children after menopause. What I am really trying to get at is that we can't give up on our blessings just because they are not happening in the time frame we want them to.

[beefche]

Originally Posted by Tarnished

True they all had children after menopause. What I am really trying to get at is that we can't give up on our blessings just because they are not happening in the time frame we want them to.

I was just yanking your chain, Tarnished. I completely agree with you.

I'm sure these women thought that their patiarchal blessing was for this life. When they got past child-bearing age, I'm sure they lamented that fact. But, it just goes to prove to me that 2 ingredients in these blessings are vital--our faithfulness and God's will. I can question my faithfulness to the extent that I become unfaithful....or I can continually work on my faith. If I remain faithful, it will still depend on God's will.

[Wingnut]

I'm wondering what the point of going to a psychic would be anyway. If the object is because you want to have children, then why talk to a psychic? The psychic isn't going to impregnate you.