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Old 11-06-2009, 08:32 PM
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Well, it appears that King Mosiah may have named one of his son's after the leader, Ammon. Is that any kind of evidence?
It is to me, sister! It's perhaps significant to note that this was Mosiah's eldest son, almost certainly born before those men left Zarahemla. I would suppose that Ammon was an admired friend of king Mosiah II.
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Okay, if Captain Moroni Leaves Provo, Utah fully loaded with armor at 4:05 AM traveling at 15 MPH on I-80 and Pahoran leaves Palmyra, New York at 7:05 AM traveling 25 MPH on I-90, when would they meet and would they have time to stop in Des Moines to see the giant hairball?
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It is to me, sister! It's perhaps significant to note that this was Mosiah's eldest son, almost certainly born before those men left Zarahemla. I would suppose that Ammon was an admired friend of king Mosiah II.
Hmmm, that never occurred to me. Probably because i always assumed Aaron was the oldest because he is the one the people want to be the next king. Do we know for certain that Ammon was the oldest?
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Hmmm, that never occurred to me. Probably because i always assumed Aaron was the oldest because he is the one the people want to be the next king. Do we know for certain that Ammon was the oldest?
You are probably right.
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You are probably right.
Wow, i'm just a teeny bit disappointed. Me thinks you gave up way too easily.

Actually, one can make a very compelling argument that you are right, Vort. When the names are listed, Ammon is always first. One could argue that when groups of sons are listed in the Book of Mormon they always go in order, oldest to youngest. This is certainly the case when Lehi's sons are listed and seems to be the case with other sons such as those of Alma the Younger and Helaman. So it would not make sense to have Mosiah's sons be the only group that doesn't go in order. Also, in Alma 17:18, Ammon is described as "chief among them" and administers to the others.

So there, Vort. You are right.

Though it still is interesting that when asked by King Mosiah, the people wish Aaron to be their king. Oh well, i suppose they weren't obligated to chose the elder son.
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How about this one...

What letters are never used to begin a proper name in the Book of Mormon?
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Thanks, Connie. You're sweet.

I still think you're right.
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What letters are never used to begin a proper name in the Book of Mormon?
Hah! I know that one. All the letters in the Cyrillic, Reformed Egyptian, Adamic and Greek alphabets.
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How about this one...

What letters are never used to begin a proper name in the Book of Mormon?
Let's see:

A: Abish, and about ten thousand more
B: Brother of Jared or Benjamin
C: Coriantumr
D: ??? David is mentioned as a historical figure, but I can't think of any Book of Mormon-used names starting with D.
E: Enos
F: ??? Can't think of any
G: Giddianhi
H: Helaman
I: Isabel
J: Jarom
K: Korihor
L: Laman
M: Mormon
N: Nephi
O: Orihah
P: Pahoran
Q: Queen Can't think of any others
R: Riplakish
S: Sariah
T: Teomner
U, V, W, X, Y: Can't think of any
Z: Zenos

So D (not including the non-Book of Mormon king David), F, Q, U, V, W, X, and Y are letters I can't find any Book of Mormon names for.
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Pam mentioned Alma.

Starting with the first Alma, the lineage is as follows:

Alma: priest of wicked king Noah; repented at the preaching of Abinadi (Ab'n Adi, son of Adi), founded a church, led the righteous remnant back to the Nephites, established the Church there.

Alma (Mosiah 27:8): Wicked and idolatrous man who, unlike almost everyone else in recorded history, actually repented when confronted by an angelic messenger. Desired to preach the gospel as an angel (Alma 29), and quite possibly was granted his wish (Alma 45:18-19). The book of Alma is named for this man.

Helaman (Alma 31:7): Led a group of Lamanite young men, sons of those Lamanites converted by his father.

Helaman (Alma 63:11): Received the Nephite record from his uncle Shiblon and published it widely among the Nephites. Became chief judge at the murder of Pahoran's sons, Pahoran and Pacumeni. The book of Helaman is named for this man.

Nephi (Helaman 3:21): With his brother Lehi, called the Nephites to repentence, then went among the Lamanites, receiving miraculous protection. Prophesied the murder of Seezoram and the culpability of Seantum. Called down the powers of heaven to inflict a massive drought on the people, stopping a war and causing them to die like flies. Definitely someone better to have as a friend than an enemy. Wandered off and was never seen again...

Nephi (3 Nephi 1:2): Led the Nephite Church through the dark period of civil unrest when the people, under the able judgeship of Lachoneus, were subject to attack by Gadianton robbers, and later when the government completely dissolved. Became one of the twelve Nephite "disciples", functioning as virtual apostles to the Nephites. Was taken into the presence of the Lord immediately upon his death, or else was granted a state of "translation" in order to live perpetually among the peoples until Christ's return. (Given the missionary bent of his ancestry, my money is on the latter possibility.) The books of 3 and 4 Nephi are named for this man.

So three of the sets are Alma, Helaman, and Nephi. The fourth is actually Mormon himself (Mormon 1:5).
Name some other Book of Mormon father/son pairs with the same name.
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