Politicization of the Church

[MisterT]

Thanks for your opinion of what I need to read...

[Moksha]

Originally Posted by dorave

Right, so "apparently" threats were made. Eventhough nobody knows for sure, 'if' or 'who' said anything we just know 'what' was said, riiiight.

I smell a smear campaign.

No you are experiencing a misunderstanding. The Stake President would not have released specific names to the media. However, news reports did make mention of these unattributed threats of violence had Brother Reid been allowed to bear his testimony at the Fireside and that one of the vitriolic protesters threatened to punch Brother Reid if he saw him in the Temple.

Even if you asked in person, I doubt the Stake President would reveal their identities. Once people simmer off, they do not want to be infamous for their remarks.

Perhaps you smell tea brewing.

[Moksha]

Originally Posted by Finrock

Surely you aren't suggesting that members shouldn't be political?

Greetings and salutations Finrock

I am suggesting that politics are best left outside the Church, so the Church can devote it energies to the missions of the Church and the worship of God.

[john doe]

The problem, Moksha, is not that you're trying to make a point, but that YOU'RE the one trying make the point. You have on numerous occasions berated the members of this forum for not being 'Christian' enough because some of us don't see things the same way you do politically. As has been pointed out previously, you have even attempted to compare some here to Nazis. Your credibility has been damaged as a result of your own words on this issue.

[Finrock]

Originally Posted by Moksha

Greetings and salutations Finrock

Same to you!

Originally Posted by Moksha

I am suggesting that politics are best left outside the Church, so the Church can devote it energies to the missions of the Church and the worship of God.

I think members are free to participate politically in any legal or moral way they choose.

As far as the Church is concerned? I think only the President of the Church is entitled, through revelation, to determine what is best for the Church. This, I believe, includes determining in what quantity and capacity the Church should be involved politically.

Regards,
Finrock

[Just_A_Guy]

Not sure if this has been linked to yet, but the stories about allegations of violence seem to originate with the author of this blog post. I don't recall whether it was here or in some other forum, but the author claimed to have seen some of the emails to her Stake Presidency herself.

See also this article at Millennial Star.

I think the official line from Senator Reid's office is that they didn't want the inevitable protests to disturb the atmosphere of the fireside. I think that's reasonable (not "cowardly" as some conservative outlets have hinted).

But I remain at something of a loss as to how the planned appearance of a US Democratic senator at an LDS meetinghouse during a re-election campaign that's shaping up to be very close, to what is very likely to be a swing constituency (largely conservative LDS who traditionally have voted for Reid in part based on his religious affiliation) can be interpreted as evidence that conservatives are politicizing the Church.

[Wingnut]

Are we technically even allowed to talk about Senator Reid on here? Does he count as a candidate again yet?

[MisterT]

If someone wants to charge me with a crime for speaking about Harry Reedbrain, let em' try.

[dorave]

Originally Posted by Moksha

No you are experiencing a misunderstanding. The Stake President would not have released specific names to the media. However, news reports did make mention of these unattributed threats of violence had Brother Reid been allowed to bear his testimony at the Fireside and that one of the vitriolic protesters threatened to punch Brother Reid if he saw him in the Temple.

Even if you asked in person, I doubt the Stake President would reveal their identities. Once people simmer off, they do not want to be infamous for their remarks.

Perhaps you smell tea brewing.

There are no facts. Just rumours. I'm sorry but blogs arent really the best places to look for facts, just saying.

[dorave]

Originally Posted by Just_A_Guy

Not sure if this has been linked to yet, but the stories about allegations of violence seem to originate with the author of this blog post. I don't recall whether it was here or in some other forum, but the author claimed to have seen some of the emails to her Stake Presidency herself.

See also this article at Millennial Star.

I think the official line from Senator Reid's office is that they didn't want the inevitable protests to disturb the atmosphere of the fireside. I think that's reasonable (not "cowardly" as some conservative outlets have hinted).

So the author hacked the Stake Pres's email account? coz I can't imagine the info being leaked by him or his councillors. Sounds all bogus to me.