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Well in that case. You'll WANT her on BC (whatever form necessary) in order to prevent pregnancy while you pimp her out.
Btw, I know you were just being "snarky" but yikes! What a comment.
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Yes, it was snarky, but yeah, it was a reflection of the disgust I felt reading this thread. So okay, I'll be honest here - and you're not gonna like me for it.
I was born Catholic. There are a lot of things I learned from being Catholic that I am glad I learned. Birth control is one of them.
A teen-ager who chooses to engage in pre-marital sex after I have instilled in her the consequences of such actions deserves to live those consequences. Yes, even if it involves having to live through getting pregnant. Giving her birth control pills is the same as telling a toddler - "I'm going to count to 3 - 1, 2, 3" and nothing happens after 3.
Should the baby suffer? No. And it will be my child's as well as MY responsibility to insure that the baby does not suffer. Giving my daughter birth control pills to "soften the fall" is me abjugating MY responsibility for my daughter. Giving my daughter a condom to prevent her from dying from STD is abjudgating MY responsibility to my daughter. She wants to have sex, she gets to die of STD if she is stupid enough not to heed my counsel and provide for her own protection. I will grieve until the day I die but I will feel secure in the knowledge that I taught her to the best of my ability the consequences of her actions.
My husband's sister died of oxycontin overdose. Her parents taught her everything and she still decided to defy them. Her parents will be grieving until the day they die but they are secure in the knowledge that they did their absolute best by her.
God has a reason why He gave me 2 sons and no daughters.
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02-23-2012, 10:06 AM
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A teen-ager who chooses to engage in pre-marital sex after I have instilled in her the consequences of such actions deserves to live those consequences. Yes, even if it involves having to live through getting pregnant. Giving her birth control pills is the same as telling a toddler - "I'm going to count to 3 - 1, 2, 3" and nothing happens after 3.
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Or you can look at it from another angle and say that a teenager who insists on making grown up decisions gets to make all the grown up decisions.
I don't say this to be argumentative, just to point out that some people look at it in a slightly different way.
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Dude. When both Vort and MOE are in agreement, the thinking has been done. 
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02-23-2012, 10:06 AM
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Oh, Anatess. You know I like you! Even when our minds don't think alike :] My feathers aren't easily ruffled.
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02-23-2012, 10:12 AM
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I put my daughter on the pill and hormone replacement due to PCOS. Best decision I ever made...and amazingly enough her being on the pill didn't turn her into a sexually active girl. It did, however, make her periods regular, made her hormones normal, evened out her moods (and they were bad) and brought her out of a depression she had been in since about age 13. Her being on the pill made it like night and day in her world, she came out of the dark, her body started acting normal, and she is 100% happier. And if she goes off the pill, it's only days that she slips back into the unbalanced hormonal person. Her cycles are regular now, not all bad wonky, she is not anemic anymore and her over all health has improved. Had I had a clue as to what was going on to begin with, I would have not waited until she was 17 to seek help. Had the guilt of putting my daughter on the pill not been so overwhelmingly strong...she wouldn't have had to be put on all those other meds to fix her depression.
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02-23-2012, 10:27 AM
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Oh, Anatess. You know I like you! Even when our minds don't think alike :] My feathers aren't easily ruffled.
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And that's why I like you too! Very much!  
And look at that... God gave you a daughter.  He knows you got a good head on your shoulders.
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02-23-2012, 10:29 AM
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And that's why I like you too! Very much!  
And look at that... God gave you a daughter.  He knows you got a good head on your shoulders.
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Does that mean that God knows anatess doesn't have a head on her shoulders?
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02-23-2012, 10:31 AM
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Does that mean that God knows anatess doesn't have a head on her shoulders?
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No no... He knows I have a head on it... just not good. LOL!
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02-23-2012, 10:42 AM
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And that's why I like you too! Very much!  
And look at that... God gave you a daughter.  He knows you got a good head on your shoulders.
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I gave my parents premature grey hairs and both of them kept saying that the good Lord would one day bless me with a daughter that will test my patients as much as I tested theirs. What do ya know, my first child ended up being a girl!
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My 16 year old daughter is on BC. Something to do with acne - I don't know, wife takes care of all that stuff.
I teach high school students that abstinence is the best policy. But I'm not so naive to think that all teens will listen to me (or their biological instincts) and just not have sex, so I also teach about birth control.
I think that if a teen is determined and going to have sex, there isn't a thing parents can do about. So they should at least be responsible about it and avoid the consequences inflicted on the individual, the unborn child and society in general of a teen pregnancy.
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02-23-2012, 10:49 AM
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My 16 year old daughter is on BC. Something to do with acne - I don't know, wife takes care of all that stuff.
I teach high school students that abstinence is the best policy. But I'm not so naive to think that all teens will listen to me (or their biological instincts) and just not have sex, so I also teach about birth control.
I think that if a teen is determined and going to have sex, there isn't a thing parents can do about. So they should at least be responsible about it and avoid the consequences inflicted on the individual, the unborn child and society in general of a teen pregnancy.
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I think this is a fine approach. I have been dabbling into sex ed research studies and it seems an approach that fairly recognizes the benefits of both no-sex and safe-sex are the only ones that seem to work.
My question is who takes responsibility first. Should the parents be providing the protection or should the teenagers be obtaining it themselves?
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