The World Will End In 2012

[Abraham]

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response. I would like you to know that I am not a young person - not any more. I was once young when I served in the army during Vietnam - getting riled then got some of my friends killed. So I have been around. One thing I remember from my youth is sitting at stake conference in the Provo tabernacle when a speaker said something about the second coming. He said that he was sure it was near – perhaps not in his lifetime but he was sure that some the young people there would see it in their life time. I heard the same talk at a recent stake conference, but something was different. This time I was the same age as the old guy that was sure the youth would see the second coming during their lifetime.

I am sure Jesus will return on schedule. I doubt he will be late. However it is my understanding that the wickedness in the world is not part of his schedule. I believe it is the preparedness of the saints. Specifically the Latter-Day Saints that prepare by covenant as established by G-d chosen prophet. Though many look in scripture for the signs of great destruction and wickedness it is my belief that such study is misleading. Rather we should look to the events that surround the righteous Saints and the power of good that will shine from their homes like fire in darkness. And unlike many Saints, I do not believe this is the glow from their HDTV’s broadcasting the game on Super Bowl Sunday.

The Traveler[/b]

LOL - I also am not young, just young in spirit/heart. I researched many churches when I was 11 until I found the true and full Gospel. I am sure you will agree that nothing we can do either as righteious Saints or unrighteous wll hasten or delay His Coming. The date is set and He knows when that is. I also agree that being preoccupied is counter productive If we strive to prepare then it just does not matter and all the conjecture is pure speculative waste. At the same time Matthew 24, D&C 45, as so forth give us signs that are to help so we are not left comfortless. Also, there is not doubt in my mind that angels are coming to visit the earth and will encourage us. I will ponder on your thoughts. So many are seeking with itching ears and listen for tinkling cymbals where they can have their curiousities even more aroused. I am sure you are aware that Joel's prohecy where it talks about young men shall dream dreams, old men shall see visions, the moon turning to blood, and pillars of smoke, etc, etc was declared point blank as already being fulfilled by Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley in the Saturday morning session of the 2001 General Conference. Hence, I think we can at least mark the progress of signs. In my humble opinion we are given these so we are not left to our own interpretations. Remember what happened to the early Jews who literally walked through the Roman's camps before the seige of Jerusalam where all the inhabitants left behind (not following the prohets I might add) were killed (men, women, children), where the crop lands were plowed with salt. and all the structures were burned or torn down, anyway, these ealry Saints went to Pella and dwelt there in relative peace. If were are linked to the Prophets, and not premature in our anxiety we will likewise be protecdted to a large degree. It has been promised even by Pres. Hinckley. Anyway, thank you for your thoughts, impressions, and insights, and yes even inspirations.

Your friend to all,

Abraham of the Chaldeas

[selek]

Well thought out post. However, you missed an newly discovered volcano at the south pole (the primary reason for global warming?) It is a young volcano and the world's 2 largest - next to Yellowstone. It could errupt with a major erruption any time - for sure it will sometime in the next 500 years. When it errupts it will melt enough ice to rase the oceans from 12 to 20 feet which would displace 80% of the world's population.

Also according to timetables given in the Book of Revelation there will be a 10 and 1/2 year period prior to the second comming that will be divided into 3 parts of 3 and 1/2 years. If one is to believe the Bible they would know that the 10 and 1/2 year period has not started and thus the world cannot end by 2012.

The Traveler[/b]

Just out of morbid curiousity, Traveler, you do realize that ice has a far greater volume than a comparable volume of water, don't you?

If anything, the water from all this horrible melting will occupy less space than the ice presently there.

[selek]

I am sure you are aware that Joel's prohecy where it talks about young men shall dream dreams, old men shall see visions, the moon turning to blood, and pillars of smoke, etc, etc was declared point blank as already being fulfilled by Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley in the Saturday morning session of the 2001 General Conference.[/b]

CFR, Abe. Somehow I think the quote in context might just possibly be important.

[Traveler]

Just out of morbid curiousity, Traveler, you do realize that ice has a far greater volume than a comparable volume of water, don't you?

If anything, the water from all this horrible melting will occupy less space than the ice presently there.[/b]

Thank you for reading my post and making an effort to help me understand. However, the ice (3 miles thick) at the South Pole is on land and if it melts will not remain on the land but run into the ocean. You would have been correct if we were talking about the ice at the North Pole.

The Traveler

[drjme]

Thank you for reading my post and making an effort to help me understand. However, the ice (3 miles thick) at the South Pole is on land and if it melts will not remain on the land but run into the ocean. You would have been correct if we were talking about the ice at the North Pole.

The Traveler[/b]

but how will the ice travel upwards from the south if it is the bottom of the earth?

[Traveler]

but how will the ice travel upwards from the south if it is the bottom of the earth? [/b]

No problem – gravity really ######. Woops that was a word that cannot be used - okay gravity will provide the incentive.

The Traveler

[AngelLynn]

Maybe the way we view things will change in 2012 but I don't think the world will end in 2012.

Saying the world will end is so fatalistic sounding. Anyone who has the faith of the gospel knows that the coming of the return of the Lord will be great and terrible. If the Lord's children live rightously we will see the wonders and powers of the Lord. It will be a time of hardship but it will also be glorious. The world as we know it will end but in it's place the world will be transformed to it's paradisiacal glory. That's something we should be looking forward to and not something that we should be so distraught over that we are cringing and flinching in terror.

[BenRaines]

There was an earlier theory that it was supposed to be 1984. Not Orwellian but some other guess. That is all it can be is a guess.

Did the Mayan's predict their own demise? If they can predict the end of the world in 2012 they should be able to predict their own end.

Ben Raines

[Teancum18]

Originally Posted by BenRaines

Did the Mayan's predict their own demise? If they can predict the end of the world in 2012 they should be able to predict their own end.

haha exactly!!! How can they predict the end of the world and not their own demise? Or maybe they predicted the year 2012 would be THEIR demise, and not that of the whole world. If that was the case, they were obviously wrong.

Truthfully, I think the Mayan calender ends at 2012 because they were too lazy to continue it from there. Or they died out before they could.

Microsoft made all the calenders on its computers built in the 1980's and 1990's end on Sept. 7, 2000. That wasn't because anyone thought a meteor was going to crush our planet and end the world. It was just because Microsoft knew they'd have knew computers out by then. Maybe the Mayans thought something similar... or they just didn't care and were too lazy.

I think the second coming is no less 200 years away. Maybe even more.

[FunkyTown]

Originally Posted by CourtneyP

I don't think it will end at that time, but I could be wrong. Still, that should be an interesting year with all sorts of people running around talking about the end coming.

No way! The end is coming in the year 2000. We know it's coming then, because (And this is the logical part) - There are a lot of 0s in that number.