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Old 09-04-2009, 02:31 AM
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Exactly, Gentile Medicine (Joseph Smiths termology) poisons the body. You look at the side effects of every single one of the anti depressants, they can increase the chance of suicidal thoughts or even suicide itself. I've seen it happen, a very good friend of mine killed himself and he was taking a anti depressent. Man made drugs shorten our life span and make us slaves to the arm of flesh.
exactly my point

you said back in the day you used to indulge also...


when you were using marijuana, did you ever feel suicidal?
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What are the best herbs to keep healty, not getting flues and troath/ear ace? Is there something that helps to the throath or ear if they get inflamation? Herbs that give speed to your ingestion? Herbs that help burning fat?
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I'm not looking to get into a debate on this subject but I feel I need to state my views!

'Man-made' medicine can be just as much a gift of God as the herbal alternatives - after all we're all tools in his hands! And the major advantage of the man-made medicine prescribed by you doctor is that it has been tested in rigourous clinical trials and has been given to you by someone who has spent at least 5 years (in the UK at least) learning about medicine full time. This is very different to the gentile medicine of Joseph Smiths time which included things like arsenic!

I absolutely believe that heavenly father provided herbs and plants for our health, but I have seen my grandmother treated for depression for over 15 years by a homeopath who the rest of my family are convinced is a quack. In 15 years he's made no perceptable difference, and has told her not to take anything her GP gives her! The same man told my grandfather to stop taking his heart medicine, which terrifies me!

Basicly what I want to say is that every individual should look carefully at all the options and all the evidence with regards to treatment, and not have a gut reaction based on 'all man made medicine is evil' or 'herbal medicine is nonsense'
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...the major advantage of the man-made medicine prescribed by you doctor is that it has been tested in rigourous clinical trials and has been given to you by someone who has spent at least 5 years (in the UK at least) learning about medicine full time. ...
I'd rather be healed through faith, and herbs and natural remedies that have been tested for thousands of years.

Obviously there are flaws in the so-called rigorous clinical trials and tests, that's why occasionally you'll hear reports of such and such pharmaceutical medicine being banned because too many people are dying from its side-effects.

I'll take my god-made herbs over man-made medicines.
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[QUOTE=brmecham;413756]I'd rather be healed through faith, and herbs and natural remedies that have been tested for thousands of years.
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Gee, so would I if we're talking about what we'd like, but I've made a decision based on the evidence I've seen about what works best and I'm going for a mix of the two I take echinacea for a cold rather than lemsip or night nurse, but if a doctor tells me I need antibiotics for something I take those too!

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Basicly what I want to say is that every individual should look carefully at all the options and all the evidence with regards to treatment, and not have a gut reaction based on 'all man made medicine is evil' or 'herbal medicine is nonsense'
You obviously know a lot about herbal medicine and thats the main thing I wanted to emphasize, that people reading this should do their own research about their specific illnesses and not make a blanket decision.
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They have found out that the vaccination for this infulensa is not without problems. But they have found out that colostrum is 5 times better against this influenza than the vaccination. Influenza Prevention with Colostrum found to be three times more effective against flu than the flu vaccine Colostrum Science
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I have yet to see where man-made drugs are a benefit. I've been on herbs practically my whole life, growing up I never knew what a cough syrup from the store tasted like. Has far as for your grandfathers heart medicine, my mother ran out of hers and I was concerned about it, so I had her start taking cayanne pepper with lunch and dinner, and she has been great. Cayanne Pepper will actually strength your heart to help prevent any heart problems, and if by some chance she does her heart will be strong enough to recover quickly.

For ear ache's I would recommend Mullein flower oil.
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exactly my point

you said back in the day you used to indulge also...


when you were using marijuana, did you ever feel suicidal?
Not while I was on it no, but after and the effects wore off, reality hit me in the face once more.
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I wonder what mullein is? (English is not my language... )

For caugh I been using syrup made of spruce, the new light green needles and sugar. It is very good and it helps very well.
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Good to hear, if it works for you, go for it.
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