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08-23-2008, 10:45 PM
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Dear God: Please save us from your fanatics -- of every creed. "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999 There is nothing as dangerous in this world as a man convinced of his own righteousness. A mind that has been stretched to a new idea never returns to its original dimension 
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08-23-2008, 11:11 PM
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hey! we moved from the sacramento area to texas a few years ago. you wouldn't happen to be somewhere near Apple Hill would you?! That's the most beautiful area...
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08-23-2008, 11:27 PM
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I love Apple Hill. We go once a year. I love the apple donuts
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God is God, God likes to be God & God is good at being God so let Him do it. 
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08-23-2008, 11:40 PM
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Dear God: Please save us from your fanatics -- of every creed. "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999 There is nothing as dangerous in this world as a man convinced of his own righteousness. A mind that has been stretched to a new idea never returns to its original dimension
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08-23-2008, 11:52 PM
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Pressure: It can turn a lump of coal into a flawless diamond, or an average person into a perfect basketcase. -from despair.com Except for ending slavery, fascism, nazism, & communism, WAR HAS NEVER SOLVED ANYTHING! From protestwarrior.com
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08-23-2008, 11:56 PM
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Hate you??? What reason would we have??? Well....I guess maybe if you liked Bananarama....then that might be a reason!
 Welcome to the site. Hope you enjoy it here.
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08-24-2008, 12:02 AM
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Pressure: It can turn a lump of coal into a flawless diamond, or an average person into a perfect basketcase. -from despair.com Except for ending slavery, fascism, nazism, & communism, WAR HAS NEVER SOLVED ANYTHING! From protestwarrior.com
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08-24-2008, 12:23 AM
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I like people like you. Keeps me on my toes and makes me think! I think most people here are accepting of others no matter what religion or beliefs and what not. Although I am definitely sure some will lose their dang minds the second you say something as simple as " so...how about that Joseph Smith?"
haha. Welcome to the site!
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08-24-2008, 12:30 AM
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So what is a a pagan, mystic, shaman, buddhist, wiccan, gnostic, unitarian-universalist? I've studied religions a lot too and I'm still just as confused about them all as I ever was. I am an agnostic drawn to look at the LDS church and your journey took you away from it. What was the cause? Don't answer that if you don't want to. I come here because I like Mormons and decided to learn more about them.
This is a good site. 75.67 % of the people are really nice.
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08-24-2008, 04:50 AM
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earhtyangel...cool name.....good to meet you.....i have studied many religions and phylosophies.....from a very early age....starting with the death of my father at age 5....i started asking...whats it all mean?;...why are we born to die?.....is there something after this?....hard questions for a 5yr old....but there i was....and had NO help from family or church.....always resented church members (not necessarily lds members...but not excluding them either) thaat would simply pat a child on the head and smile...as if the child were SO stupid....when, in fact, the adult was a spiritual moron.....at least, at that time...i moved away from christian churches....and yet....felt jesus in me....like my best friend....so i became scientific....knowing that there is more to church than simply attending.....how or why i knew this...i didnt know...at the time....through my youth...and at 19...i read a book....about eastern phylosophy....and it was like..yea...thats right!!.....and all the while i still felt jesus inside me...like my best friend.....long story short....i lived in a jain ashram (jainism is from india....its greatest tenant is non-violance to ALL living creatures)...where i learned to pray....not the just close your eyes and and talk praying.....but the...be still, and know that i an GOD praying...what a revalation....and blessing....and inside....i felt jesus was my best friend...so i studied...yoga...meditation...and jesus was there with me...inside....like a friend you know is with you...even though you are seperated....and felt....man, the church (christian) has gone so far astray....there are real techniques to focus on GOD with...and they dont seem to have a clue.....i lived in the ashram ( a monestary...if you will) for 10 years.....and for some inexplicable reason...felt it was time to go..cant explain it....but couldnt deny it....and shortly thereafter....through circumstance....was introduced to lds missionaries.....took the lessons...all the while thinking...ok..another christian church....they probably dont have a clue either...and by this time,,i was in my 40s...and the missionaries were ..what...19?...20?....what do they know about anything....but...iread the testamony in the front of the book of mormon....and was filled with such a sence of joy....i believed it to be true....but cmon...josph smith?...so much was still strange to me.....but....the lds (i prefer that tto mormon) approach to SPIRITUAL PRACTICE was so like what i had studied, and felt to be true...i could not deny it....do i accept everything verbatum?....no ...i still struggle with some church policies....and church people.....and practice the prayer/meditation techniques i learned and hold to be true spiritual practice....and try to give others their own time and space to grow....as i understand growth...keeping in mind....non-violence....physical..mental....spiritual....as best i can....and still follow the truth i feel in my heart....and soul........to say that there is a political aspect to the church is an understatement in my opinion....i have always felt....and did learn...that true spirit is between you and GOD....period....although profets/teachers are here to help guide us....it still comes down to .....you GOD, and me......so...here are my thoughts....i dont know if you are apostate or not....but i have a sense that you seek more truth (reality) than you've been taught.....ok...search....find your path .....but dont feel you are cut off from jesus because the church says you are....or do you feel removed from him yourself?.....yea...been there too....andf he is still here with me....lol......bottom line......find your own path.....whatever it is....i pray.....and i feel...that it will bring you home.......and yes....lol....sometimes i'm still affraid.....blessings
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