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Old 08-24-2008, 05:11 AM
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So what is a a pagan, mystic, shaman, buddhist, wiccan, gnostic, unitarian-universalist? I've studied religions a lot too and I'm still just as confused about them all as I ever was. I am an agnostic drawn to look at the LDS church and your journey took you away from it. What was the cause? Don't answer that if you don't want to. I come here because I like Mormons and decided to learn more about them.

This is a good site. 75.67 % of the people are really nice.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:54 AM
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But, I'm an apostate. Now, I'm sure that alone will cause some to hate me right off the bat.

So anyway. Here I am.

I'm curious to see how I'll be received.

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Hello Kevin,

I am confident ( because I have recently joined this site as well ) that your time here will be a very rewarding one.

IMHO, we are all on our own journey and it has been my experience on this forum that if we ( I included) can get past our own personal bias or history then there is a tremendous amount of knowledge and perspective for all to gain. For me, it has been a true blessing to be able to draw from such a diverse group of people available on this forum.

I would add that it has also been a very humbling experience.

I certainly do not hate, rather I look forward to the contributions you might offer.

Welcome and God bless,
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dazed, thanks for sharing your story. It was hard to get through without the use of any standard punctuation, but I was strong.

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it still comes down to .....you GOD, and me......so...here are my thoughts....i dont know if you are apostate or not....but i have a sense that you seek more truth (reality) than you've been taught.....ok...search....find your path .....but dont feel you are cut off from jesus because the church says you are....or do you feel removed from him yourself?.....yea...been there too....andf he is still here with me....lol......bottom line......find your own path.....whatever it is....i pray.....and i feel...that it will bring you home.......and yes....lol....sometimes i'm still affraid.....blessings
I say much the same thing: No one stands between us and the Divine. That's the message of just about every great spiritual visionary throughout time. But then religions come along and say "You're not good enough to approach God directly. So here... we'll do it for you, but here's a checklist of things you must do, and here's a bill for our services."

I never said I was cut off from Jesus. In fact, I am filled with "Christ consciousness" more now than ever before in my life. I am an apostate from what the LDS faithful will enthusiastically call "The only true and living church" in the world.

FWIW, I am home. Thanks for sharing your concern.

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You got me here and only now are you introducing yourself?

Well, good for you.

I don't think I count as an apostate, but I don't know the counting rules. I was born a member, am still a member (the ward teachers come every month), but never really believed any of it. Oddly enough, no one thought to ask me if I believed until I was about 20.

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Hi Kevin... this is a great site and will continue that way only if people respect one an others beliefs. Everyone can choose their own way of mixing but flaming and other over actions that are against the rules of the site will be taken care of by mods squard. Most here want a calm discusition... you are welcome to keep the rules.
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Hi Kevin,

I wonder if anyone would hate you off the bat...

I found something similar, you looked for 20 years for an all- encompassing religion, like me........
just that my search ended where yours began..

I suppose everyone has that question sometime...
keep looking.............
nice to have you here..
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Welcome, Kevin! You're going to have to do a lot more than be an apostate before I hate you. I have quite a few apostates in my family and I love them. Even my uncle who sticks candy up his nose.
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Welcome, Kevin! You're going to have to do a lot more than be an apostate before I hate you. I have quite a few apostates in my family and I love them. Even my uncle who sticks candy up his nose.
Does it help that I'm also a heretic?
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good one earthyangel...about the fanatics.....couldnt agree more
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