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The Godhead
"Our first and foremost article of faith in The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints is 'We believe in God, the Eternal Father,
and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost' (Articles of Faith
1:1). We believe these three divine persons constituting a single Godhead
are united in purpose, in manner, in testimony, in mission. We believe Them
to be filled with the same godly sense of mercy and love, justice and
grace, patience, forgiveness, and redemption. I think it is accurate to say
we believe They are one in every significant and eternal aspect imaginable
except believing Them to be three persons combined in one substance, a
Trinitarian notion never set forth in the scriptures because it is not
true."
(Jeffrey R. Holland, "The Only True God and Jesus Christ Whom He Hath Sent," Ensign, Nov. 2007, 40)
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06-19-2008, 09:17 PM
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Whenever a "critic/antaganist" drops in and throws a bomb to stir up trouble, I always want to post the first article of faith, and tell them that we'll start there and work towards whatever his/her issue is.
No sense discussing complex topics before the basics are understood.
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06-20-2008, 08:29 AM
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Milk before meat!
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I appreciate the suggestion to start with a foundational doctrine like the nature of God. However, beginning a theological discussion with the LDS Godhood vs. the Trinity would hardly be a milky or simple. :-)
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06-20-2008, 02:13 PM
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I appreciate the suggestion to start with a foundational doctrine like the nature of God. However, beginning a theological discussion with the LDS Godhood vs. the Trinity would hardly be a milky or simple. :-)
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The nature of the Godhead is as simple as it's stated.
The gospel doctrines are simple, but somehow, we mange to complicate them.
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06-20-2008, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PapilioMemnon
The nature of the Godhead is as simple as it's stated.
The gospel doctrines are simple, but somehow, we mange to complicate them.
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It is only simple at the surface - the nature of the G-dhead plays into many other doctrines was well. For example the doctrine of the fall: If there is only one G-d both before and after the fall and that one G-d is the same G-d then there was no fall and man needs no mediator.
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06-20-2008, 02:51 PM
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Milk before meat!
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Lactose free milk, right?
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06-20-2008, 03:09 PM
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It would not be for the reason of having a theological discussion of the Godhead vs the Trinity(bomb throwers aren't much interested in discussion), but rather, so the other party can have a better understanding of our teachings and beliefs.
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06-20-2008, 04:08 PM
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If there is only one G-d both before and after the fall and that one G-d is the same G-d then there was no fall and man needs no mediator.
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I don't follow your logic there.
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I don't follow your logic there.
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There is no mediator between man and the G-d of the Old Testament. If man fail and required a mediator in order the address the same G-d he fail from then the ancient scriptures have a serious flaw. Only if man must deal with a mediator since the fall was there really a fall.
If Jesus is the pre-fall G-d of heaven then how is it that Jesus could live among men (including thoses that are not cleansed from sin) that were cast out of his presents because of transgression?
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