The Cross

[Snow]

Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

My opinion on the subject, is that the symbol of Christ's' death, the Cross, is the symbol of Christianity because without his death there would be no religion.

It's only a symbol of Christianity because some people think it is a symbol of Christianity... like a fish or "God Don't Make No Junk" sign. It has no intrinsic value in an of itself.

What does God have to say about it?

[Islander]

Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

I first want to apologize to everyone for my outburst. The term evil was very harsh.



Islander, as I have specifically apologized to you in our private messages, I hope you will reconsider talking with me. If you do, please elaborate on what you meant, I would really appreciate it.



Apology accepted. I simply hope everyone accepts my apology.

Rekhyt2238 - I will organize my thoughts a bit better and I'll reply tomorrow. I sincerely dislike contention. People usually stop listening and are just waiting for their turn to lash out and that is why I avoid it, nothing personal. Once the Spirit withdrawn we are just left with the noise of our own voice bouncing inside our heads. A totally useless exercise.

We'll pick up where we left.

[Rekhyt2238]

Originally Posted by Islander

Rekhyt2238 - I will organize my thoughts a bit better and I'll reply tomorrow. I sincerely dislike contention. People usually stop listening and are just waiting for their turn to lash out and that is why I avoid it, nothing personal. Once the Spirit withdrawn we are just left with the noise of our own voice bouncing inside our heads. A totally useless exercise.

We'll pick up where we left.

Thank you Islander. I appreciate it, and I look forward to your response.

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by prisonchaplain

YES!

The cross reminds us of the means of Christ's sacrifice. It is not idolatry, a desire for the morbid, nor defeatism, that motivates us to use the cross as our primary image, when telling the gospel. Just as we did not know Abraham's faith and love for God until he lifted the knife to sacrifice his own son, we could not see, nor understand the rock-solid love of God for us.

Again, this motivates us to live with humility, and yet righteousness and spiritual confidence. Gun, electric chair, noose--the instrument of Christ's death would be our badge of honor.

I would agree with you about your efforts to remember the sacrifice of Christ. However, that is not how he asked his disciples to remember him. I do not believe this would be so much a problem if the more important issues and commandments were given equal or more respect. I am not so concerned with your individual case of respect and devotion as I am with the traditional Christians that have carried the cross into war to justify many of histories worse abuses against mankind.

Without question the symbol of the cross has come to be an “evil” symbol of great abuse throughout the world as much as it is a symbol of peace through the sacrifice of Christ. It is also just as much a symbol of “self serving” and rejection (damning) of others as it is a symbol of love, care and service of others (especially to non-Christians).

So I ask a question – if the cross in the hands of a Christian is a symbol of destruction and abuses in a specific society – would you gladly wear a cross knowing the fear and distrust that it generates?

The Traveler

[Rekhyt2238]

Originally Posted by Traveler

So I ask a question – if the cross in the hands of a Christian is a symbol of destruction and abuses in a specific society – would you gladly wear a cross knowing the fear and distrust that it generates?

The Traveler

I personally would wear my Cross under my shirt, as I always do.

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

I personally would wear my Cross under my shirt, as I always do.

Interesting - Is this because your concerns and desires are much more important than others and their concerns, to your brand of Christianity?

Please do not be angry at my post - I understand that some things must be done despite what others think - I just want to make sure that the cross to you is one of them. If so - do you rely on scripture for this commandment or some other source - Whatever your source - would you please provide the source?

The Traveler

[Rekhyt2238]

Originally Posted by Traveler

Interesting - Is this because your concerns and desires are much more important than others and their concerns, to your brand of Christianity?

Please do not be angry at my post - I understand that some things must be done despite what others think - I just want to make sure that the cross to you is one of them. If so - do you rely on scripture for this commandment or some other source - Whatever your source - would you please provide the source?

The Traveler

What do my concerns and desires have to do with wearing a Cross under my shirt where no one can see it? Yes, some things must be done despite what others think. If my mother knew I was wearing a Cross, she would be furious which is one reason I wear it under my shirt.

[MrNirom]

Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

If my mother knew I was wearing a Cross, she would be furious which is one reason I wear it under my shirt.

Ah.. the rebellious teenager. LOL I have had 3 of those.. and I love it now when they have gotten older.. and have apologized for their behavior when younger.

Most of what young people do are not because of thinking something through.. it is based on pure emotion only. It is when the brain catches up to the emotions.. then an adult is made. At least most of the time. I am sure that someone out there can show me the contrary to that statement.

[Rekhyt2238]

Originally Posted by MrNirom

Ah.. the rebellious teenager. LOL I have had 3 of those.. and I love it now when they have gotten older.. and have apologized for their behavior when younger.

Most of what young people do are not because of thinking something through.. it is based on pure emotion only. It is when the brain catches up to the emotions.. then an adult is made. At least most of the time. I am sure that someone out there can show me the contrary to that statement.

If I was just being rebellious, I would not be wearing it under my shirt. I would be wearing it in plain view of everyone. As it is, there is only about one other person that knows I'm wearing it.

[siouxz72]

Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

If I was just being rebellious, I would not be wearing it under my shirt. I would be wearing it in plain view of everyone. As it is, there is only about one other person that knows I'm wearing it.

one other and the few thousand here on .net mamama! i'm telling!