Uncomfortable Doctrine

[a-train]

To claim that God has never endured manhood, death, and resurrection is to simply deny Christ. No Christian can deny it. The New Testament is full of the notion.

-a-train

[Yellowhill]

I am just a new convert, and I am wondering around here seeing what this is all about. i grew up Luthern and that kind of fizzed. Then i got into mediation for a steady 10 years plus. then that staw melted into my mouth. my daugher who has been a member for ten years helped me along. Then the sisters missionaries did there talks. I broke down with the first vision of my Heavenly Father and his Son my Saviour when they visited here on earth. Like and old fish I took the hole sinker bait and line. It was a Devine revelation for me. Two weeks ago was the first i heard about my Heavenly Mother. It made perfect sense to me. Now I do believe that if we exalt ourselfs in the way our lords wants we too become Goodheads. Our Heavenly Father has many mansions if this was not truth he would not say it

[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by ceeboo

NOW THAT was a post ( elphaba like )

HEY! I SAW THAT!

"elphaba like" I can't tell if I hate it or if I love it!

The nerve.

Elphaba

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by Yellowhill

I am just a new convert, and I am wondering around here seeing what this is all about. i grew up Luthern and that kind of fizzed. Then i got into mediation for a steady 10 years plus. then that staw melted into my mouth. my daugher who has been a member for ten years helped me along. Then the sisters missionaries did there talks. I broke down with the first vision of my Heavenly Father and his Son my Saviour when they visited here on earth. Like and old fish I took the hole sinker bait and line. It was a Devine revelation for me. Two weeks ago was the first i heard about my Heavenly Mother. It made perfect sense to me. Now I do believe that if we exalt ourselfs in the way our lords wants we too become Goodheads. Our Heavenly Father has many mansions if this was not truth he would not say it

When I think about HER, I would swell up with tears. I await that day to embrace HER and our FATHER.

[candyprpl]

Originally Posted by Yellowhill

I am just a new convert, and I am wondering around here seeing what this is all about. i grew up Luthern and that kind of fizzed. Then i got into mediation for a steady 10 years plus. then that staw melted into my mouth. my daugher who has been a member for ten years helped me along. Then the sisters missionaries did there talks. I broke down with the first vision of my Heavenly Father and his Son my Saviour when they visited here on earth. Like and old fish I took the hole sinker bait and line. It was a Devine revelation for me. Two weeks ago was the first i heard about my Heavenly Mother. It made perfect sense to me. Now I do believe that if we exalt ourselfs in the way our lords wants we too become Goodheads. Our Heavenly Father has many mansions if this was not truth he would not say it

Wonderfully said!

[prisonchaplain]

Originally Posted by a-train

To claim that God has never endured manhood, death, and resurrection is to simply deny Christ. No Christian can deny it. The New Testament is full of the notion.

-a-train

To teach the incarnation--that God became flesh and dwelt amongst us--is a wee bit different from teaching that our God was at some point not God.

Originally Posted by Elphaba

HEY! I SAW THAT!

"elphaba like" I can't tell if I hate it or if I love it!

The nerve.

Elphaba

Hello Elphaba,

I sincerly offered that as a true complimant.

To one day have the seasoned ability to post " Elphaba like ,is indeed a goal I have set for myself.

Thanks for all your MONUMENTAL contributions.

God bless,
Carl

[candyprpl]

God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. That is my understanding. I don't see anything else being taught.

[justamere10]

Originally Posted by prisonchaplain

To teach the incarnation--that God became flesh and dwelt amongst us--is a wee bit different from teaching that our God was at some point not God.

The difference is a difference of understanding about the nature of God.

To the Latter-day Saints, God is literally our Heavenly Parent and, the same as a natural father of a physical body will always be that natural father, God the Father will always be the "natural" Father of our spirit body.

Jesus Christ is "God" by virtue of being a member of the Godhead, but he is not God the Father as he is apparently thought to be by those who accept the trinity concept. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

So, for Latter-day Saints, God the Father was not at some point not our Heavenly Parent (unless we existed in some form prior to the creation of our spirit body.) But "God" did become incarnate in the form of Jesus Christ, a member of the Godhead.

We think of the Godhead as being similar to the First Presidency of the LDS Church. A President (similar to God the Father) and two Counselors (each called "President".) The counselors in the Godhead are Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost.

Does that make sense?

[Justice]

Originally Posted by prisonchaplain

To teach the incarnation--that God became flesh and dwelt amongst us--is a wee bit different from teaching that our God was at some point not God.

PC, we could have a long talk about this. It really is scriptural, it just depends on how you interpret scripture. I rely on a prophet to guide my beliefs into the truth. Doing it on our own is most difficult. Believing what the world believes as truth, from my experience, is probably not going to get you there. The trinity is false doctrine.

Either God the Father and Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith as 2 separate, tangible beings, or they didn't. That they appeared to him in trinity form is not even part of the equation. That's what is really at the heart of this discussion. And, there's only 1 way to know for sure.