Pre-life - Standing on the fence?

[MrNirom]

If God has said that there must be opposition in all things.. how could that be without someone like Satan?

He must have some kind of a plan for him that maybe we don't fully understand?

[HiJolly]

Originally Posted by MrNirom

He must have some kind of a plan for him that maybe we don't fully understand?

I'd bet on that one.


HiJolly

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by Maedoc

You see, this is where I think the disagreement arises. From what I've read in your posts, you seem to believe someone who is not totally devoted can be considered a fence sitter, even after making a choice. I would say that once a choice is made, no matter the level of devotion, the person is removed from fence sitter status. In my mind, the fence sitter is neutral, and on either side is a spectrum ranging from barely devoted to completely devoted.

I would even go so far as to say it is impossible for anyone to ever be a "fence sitter." Matthew 12:30 tells us "He that is not with me is against me..." Even in not making a choice, you have still made a choice. It is the Lord's side with whatever degree of devotion, or satan's.

Hmm...this is where I would say ASK GOD for youself. Perhaps a visitation of what was prior to our exit for here would be a neat trip?

Look, I cannot convince but say what I honestly believe. I am a literalist and at times, it must ache our FATHER's heart in some matters. This is a given. We believe what we are given until it is replaced those falsity or fables.

I will also add, before our departure from the gates of spirit world, we had those who do object to our presence then and in this mortality, still will not like us now. Given point? Look at Christ mortal life...and then look at Joseph Smith mortal life.

Last, what was the character of Cain then and now?

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by MrNirom

If God has said that there must be opposition in all things.. how could that be without someone like Satan?

He must have some kind of a plan for him that maybe we don't fully understand?

I remember someone asked that question to Hugh [Nibley] about Lucifer. He remarked, something of the order, he was meant to be defective from the beginning. Meaning, he still had the choice to choose the right but knowing his character was already flawed, he would play that role.