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Old 11-19-2008, 11:50 PM
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I am trying to be unargumentative as I can...

I'm just saying you know.... To me, Jesus is the same God as the Father.
God the Father probably wouldn't say to the Son "I am Better Than You"
But God might say to the son "My Authority is higher than yours."

Ronald Reagan probably wouldn't think he was better than a homeless man, but he definitely has higher authority.
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No I didn't take your post as argumentative.... I understand where you are coming from. It's just different perspectives. I hope my posts don't sound that way either, when I am typing them, that is not the feeling I am typing with.
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Oh o.k. Yeah. I just decided to blurt that out.
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For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward: (Deut. 10:17)
Who are the gods that the LORD God is God of?

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Might not a spiritual being... any supernatural being be regarded as a god when they may in fact be not?
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Who are the gods that the LORD God is God of?

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The people or objects people set up as gods.

The is no God but our God, and Jesus is His Son.
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Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. (1 John 3:1-3)
Do you not believe that we shall be the sons of God, that we shall be like Him, that we shall be as pure as He is?

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The people or objects people set up as gods.

The is no God but our God, and Jesus is His Son.
Would you say the same of the lords over which He is LORD?

Going outside that verse, what of the kings over which He is King?

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This is true. I take into account, however, that since I don't believe God has ever procreated, that Jesus is his only begotten son. We are sons through adoption.
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Do you not believe that we shall be the sons of God, that we shall be like Him, that we shall be as pure as He is?

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I believe we will become perfected in our capacities but we will never become a God, because there is only one. We will assist Him in His work, but we will never be what God is.

Instead of responding to the other post in another post I will respond to you other post to me here...

Yes, He is Lord over those set up as lords and King over all who would be called kings. Now I DO believe we will be Lords and Kings in the Kingdom of God (it is called a Kingdom for a reason) as the NT teaches. But that will in no way make us what God is.
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