Becoming gods

[Hemidakota]

What is my true destiny, to reside with my Heavenly Parents as their child who will be like them...having worlds and children without end.

[erichard]

Originally Posted by Interested

Well... I don't get it where it would say we would get everything Jesus has. You could kind of squeeze that out of that passage I suppose. But its a stretch. We would definitely get what verse 17 says... but "Join heirs with Christ" sounds alot more like receiving his authority and the rights to the throne of God.

I don't see where that would make us gods except in a figurative sense like Satan is the god of this world.

Hi Interested,

I am getting into this late, but do have some thoughts that you should consider. I am Mormon, but not LDS. I only speak for myself.

A person can believe the Bible, every word of it, and fully accept the Mormon faith. But a person cannot accept the Creeds and be Mormon.

In the Mormon faith, the creeds, developed by philosophers, were added for political purposes to the Bible understanding in defiance of Rev 22:18 . They are not correct.

The Mormon faith has further understanding to better understand the Bible also: but it comes from the same source as the Bible itself: The Word of the Lord to the Prophets of Israel.

In the creedal Trinity understanding, God is an infinite, immaterial, uncreated, inconceivable being outside of time and space that created all things out of nothing. Jesus is this God and at the same time the finite, begotten human Jesus of Nazareth.

In the Mormon faith, there is just one Jesus, the one in the Bible. He is not something totally different at the same time. He is a being we can conceive of becoming like, because we can read about his life and he was not so different than us.

So how can the finite, begotten Jesus be the Almighty God without being something else at the same time? Because he is united in heart and mind with His eternal Father: a being who is finite, who also lived on an earth and overcame all things, but is now resurrected and perfect.

And ultimately, God is an INFINITE family union of resurrected, exalted men and women who are finite and in a state of eternal progression.

However, the INFINITE eternal union itself is not progressing: it eternally has all power, all knowledge, all perfection.

So there is really only ONE God, but God is not one personage: God is an INFINITE family of perfect beings like ourselves from previous earths. Those who become Joint Heirs with Christ, such as Abraham and Sarah, will be one with this union and share in its Eternal work and glory. They will be Gods.

I have tried to express the essence of my Mormon faith. The Book of Mormon does not teach what I have said, but it does teach the path to gain the Gift of the Holy Ghost, which leads to these truths and much, much more truth.

Richard

[Interested]

Hm. That is an interesting view.

[Hemidakota]

Hmm...Meaning what? I am not a member of the church?

The term 'Mormon' is no different of the pagans calling the members of the early church Christians.

I am LDS or Latter Day-Saint and Christian, devoted to the Savior and the His church.

[a-train]

Originally Posted by Dr T

I am a son of God.

be like him in what sense?

NO, not as pure as God but if you're talking about how he sees us, throught the work of Christ then I'd agree that he sees us as pure because of that but "As God"-no

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. (1 John 3:1-3)

We shall be like Him in the sense that we shall "see Him as He is", just as He sees us as we are. Does this mean we will comprehend God? It certainly must. For God certainly comprehends us as He sees us. How can we see Him as He is and not comprehend Him?

The verse says plainly that "every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as [God] is pure." No uncleanness can exist in God's Presence, else there is no need for any purification through Christ.

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. (Isaiah 1:18)

The Blood of Christ is not only partially effective. It is sufficient to make man as pure as God.

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (1 John 1:7)

Christ's blood cleans us from not just some sin, but ALL.

-a-train