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Old 12-03-2008, 05:48 PM
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Well, I was actually talking Biblical scripture ... which D/C # is that?
Why would I bother using Biblical Scripture when there is a better one contained elsewhere within the Standard Works? especially when I already stated it was as a Latter Day Saint I believed this., I moved away from Christianity through choice I am not going to give up the advantages of knowledge being LDS gives me. And if you have read the Standard Works its an easy story to find. It is also contained in the article I posted.

However there is also the one about the rock - and sure it must be in there because Peter was also head of the Catholic Church Like I stated I do not use direct scripture quotes in a debate thread

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How do Mormons reconcile their beliefs as Christ-like, and even the most Christ-like above all other Christian "creeds" when we have behaviour like this?
did those affidavits happen to take place after Marsh was ex'd and during the time Pratt was outisde of the church?
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I'm not actually sure on that one.
It could've been beforehand.
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did those affidavits happen to take place after Marsh was ex'd and during the time Pratt was outisde of the church?
It is as I say... Imagine that
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Where is the scripture to say Peter was the president?
Where is the scripture saying Peter was Pope?

You say tomayto, I say tomahto.
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Visitation isn't revelation,
I do believe that the revelation in the Bible is the final word of God for these times.
However, I do believe in personal revelation --- but for things like recieving an answer from God to a prayer ... being called by the spirit to create a ministry, etc,.
If you are theology major, you will realize that 3rd John is older than Revelation.
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Where is the scripture saying Peter was Pope?

You say tomayto, I say tomahto.

Or that the church was called the CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF SAINTS.
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Hey ya Pale,

I wonder if you could find a " quote " or " bit of history " that would make the Catholics look not so good

Yes indeed, perspective and faith guides us !!!
Indeed I could....my best friend from 8th grade is a member of your faith and we still keep in contact today....and we shared some things over the years.
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Where is the scripture saying Peter was Pope?

You say tomayto, I say tomahto.
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However there is also the one about the rock - and sure it must be in there because Peter was also head of the Catholic Church
This absolute nonsense, pure fantasy. Sure, he died in rome but there is no contemporary (i.e., outside the paganised catholic church) evidence to say he elevated himself highly above the rest as the Holy Father. Peter was the head of "The Way" (as it was called, Hemidakota, and later they became known as Christians).
Sure maybe Peter was considered a leader of sorts in the Church of Christ that was formed at the time, but it certainly bore absolutely no resemblance to the Catholic Church -- as evidenced by the Bible. And for the sake of discussion of Catholicism, it is the only definitive source of discussion.
It's clear that the pagan emperor Constanite just wanted to make a connection right back to the beginning, because lets face it, the Catholic church as we know it was created by him to unify the empire. For social control.

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Asea, which Bible do you use as infallible scripture? There are several if not many versions of the Old and New Testament.

I once did a web search of discrepancies in the Bible. Interesting reading for those who have infallible scripture.

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