Christ-like?

[bodhigirlsmiles]

Originally Posted by Outshined

Remarkable how people will look past so much good in order to find some item of negativity they can dwell upon. Read first through the Standard Works and General Conference addresses for a feel of our beliefs.

the mormons among whom i live have always treated me with the kindest regard and most amiable manner. when i have politely declined their requests to join, they have yet to draw a sword.

[bodhigirlsmiles]

Originally Posted by Aesa

I have read through the standard works, thankyou. Well at least the BoM anyway.

Christ's rage was loving, not hateful or destructive.

surely one member's words spoken on one occassion can give no cause to believe that this is the feeling of all members of that group. hitler (though he was austrian) and his fellow nazis said some pretty horrific things about jews, but are all germans bad? are all austrians?

[bodhigirlsmiles]

Originally Posted by rameumptom

I can find much on most religions.

Catholics at one time had 3 concurrent popes who excommunicated each other. Of course, we could also discuss the Inquisition and Indulgences....

Protestants had John Calvin burning people at the stake; witches being burned at the stake; and supported Henry VIII in his "divorces". Protestant ministers led the way of those who murdered Joseph Smith, and in implementing the "extermination order" against the Mormons in Missouri.

Given such histories, I don't think a few quotes from Joseph Smith seem quite so bad.

I don't judge churches from their past histories, as I know they are all run by imperfect humans. What makes a good or bad church, is what are the doctrines they teach and implement?

except for we buddhists. we are perfect and never do anything wrong.

(i hope you know i am only joking! )

[Old Tex]

Originally Posted by BenRaines

Jesus loves me this I know, for the bible tells me so. I am weak and He is strong. Yes Jesus love me, yes Jesus love me, yes Jesus loves me, the Bible tells me so.

Ben Raines

Jesus loves me this I know, for the bible tells me so, LITTLE ONES TO HIM BELONG, I am weak but He is strong.

Funny how something like that can pop up after seven decades.

[Old Tex]

Originally Posted by Aesa

-- thus it is a commentary on the original, and what makes it a commentary is the fact that you could translate it 100 times and it would always differ in at least small ways -- as is with the Bible.

I think it could more correctly be considered as a "companion" to the bible wherein they support each other in their testimony that Jesus is the Christ. Put whatever word you want on it, but that is the relationship. They both are "God's written word".

[Old Tex]

Originally Posted by Aesa

Well of course, but since the Book of Mormon is said to be scripture -- we can also assume that it will follow the path outlined in the other scriptures.
Let me clarify, what I mean is -- nothing is included that would diminish other scriptures, so for example a doctrine that makes an already existing doctrine (not creed, lets be clear) do a 360.

I agree with what you state above Aesa. Do you see some case or cases of diminishment between the bible and the Book of Mormon? If so, we can discuss them. One must also keep in mind that along with proper translation, perception and interpretation often interferes with the agreement between the two that you stipulate.

This is certainly evident with the bible alone. It seems that everyone and his brother has their own perception and interpretation of what the bible "says". Which of these interpretations do you wish to compare with the Book of Mormon? That would be a good starting place.

Old Tex

[Old Tex]

Originally Posted by Aesa

You're right -- I simply feel that a child should be at an accountable age to bear witness. You wouldn't have a 6 year old prophet bearing witness, hypothetically.

Perhaps. I have also heard it expressed that these little ones may also be speaking from things partly remembered. This being because they may not have been in this fallen world long enough to have been "contaminated" to the point of having their memory of their Heavenly Parents completely lost yet.