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04-19-2009, 07:05 PM
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I was actually thinking about this recently. Since I resigned and am currently in the porcess of returning to membership in the church, If I could get a 2nd PB, since my resignation made everything else null and void.
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04-19-2009, 07:11 PM
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It used to be a common practice to get more than one. Many (if not most) of the early saints have more than one.
My ggggreat grandfather had 2. Joseph Smith had about 4.
By the way, you can get copies of your ancestors PB's by emailing Salt Lake. You can search microfilm to find out when, where, etc they were given and then order them. It used to take months and months to get the copy. Now it only takes a couple weeks.
It is a very special thing to read the promises given your ancestors.
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04-20-2009, 05:41 AM
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If you lack the Testimony you say you do on other threads...why would you want another PB?????
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Dunno really. To see what it says. Why not?
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By the way, you can get copies of your ancestors PB's by emailing Salt Lake. You can search microfilm to find out when, where, etc they were given and then order them. It used to take months and months to get the copy. Now it only takes a couple weeks.
It is a very special thing to read the promises given your ancestors.
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I'm slightly obsessed with my ancestors. That would be interesting, I might do it.
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04-20-2009, 05:52 AM
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Suppose someone was a member of the church and received a patriarchal blessing, and then fell away from the church or is ex-communicated. If that person later becomes a member in good standing, can they get another patriarchal blessing? It would seem that all of the blessings and promises of the first blessing would be lost due to that persons actions. Has anyone heard of anything like this?
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James E. Faust said: “Generally, one patriarchal blessing is adequate, and second patriarchal blessings are not encouraged. If a worthy member has an important reason for desiring a second patriarchal blessing, the member may discuss it with his or her bishop.
“The giving of additional patriarchal blessings may have been more common in the past. My grandmother, Maude Wetzel Faust, was challenged like most mothers with the raising of her children. She made an offhanded remark that the children were driving her crazy. My grandfather took her to the stake patriarch who blessed her that her "reason would never be dethroned." The blessing was literally fulfilled. She died at eighty-seven years of age, and she was joking with the nurses on the way to the operating room where she died from a ruptured appendix.”- Patriarchal Blessings, speeches.byu.edu Something a few of us may wish to consider.
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04-20-2009, 06:53 AM
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Dunno really. To see what it says. Why not?
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i'm sorry that doesn't sound like a good reason to get a first, much less a second. sounds a little like mocking the lord. but that's just my opinion, the bishop should be the one to make that decision.
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One should seek to converse with the Lord openly vice another patriarchal blessing.
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04-20-2009, 09:03 AM
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One should seek to converse with the Lord openly vice a patriarchal blessing.
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exactly, I might get some more direct guidance. I dont seem to be doing too well so far.....
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04-20-2009, 09:59 AM
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i got 2 blessings, about 2 months apart. when i got my first the recorder had something malfunction and the patriarch could not transcribe it. nothing was recorded so he called me back to do it again. i didn't need to get a second recommend for it. i know that's not really what you are talking about.
also know a man that lived to be very old, still alive actually lol i think he's in his 90's, who prayed about his and found it to have been completed... he outlived his blessing. lol he is a patriarch by the way. he went to the bishop and the bishop gave him permission for a new one, so he got a second one.... though i'm not sure who gives a patriarch a blessing, wouldn't think he could do it himself... lol again i know not really what you are talking about.
lol i guess i don't really have anything to contribute.
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Each Stake has or should have a Patriarch. Another Patriarch would give the blessing.
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04-20-2009, 08:16 PM
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i'm sorry that doesn't sound like a good reason to get a first, much less a second. sounds a little like mocking the lord. but that's just my opinion, the bishop should be the one to make that decision.
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If i had the issues with everything in the church like you do....I would not even think about another one...
I agree with you Gwen...
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I guess I don't understand the reasoning behind a 2nd Patriarchal blessing. Even if you are excommunicated and rebaptized...all is to be restored. Though I don't think your Patriarchal blessing was ever taken away. It is what it is..a blessing given. Your lineage doesn't change. Many things don't change. As most say they will rise forth with the first resurrection that probably won't change either. Your original Patriarchal blessing usually gives some promises that if you do this or that..certain blessings will be yours. If you have failed to live up to those...do you just say..Okay I don't get those blessings how about some others?
One thing in my patriarchal blessing promises that if I keep it I will have numerous blessings. It's something I struggle with daily. That won't change just having another one.
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