Rough Stone Rolling

[BenRaines]

Personally I don't think so. I think that they are so on the same page that it doesn't.

Can't say the same for 12 High Council members. Not heated but some very diverse opinions shared.

Ben Raines

[Hemidakota]

I would not use the term 'heated' but at times do not share the same thought or may agree on something.

[Palerider]

Originally Posted by BenRaines

Personally I don't think so. I think that they are so on the same page that it doesn't.

Can't say the same for 12 High Council members. Not heated but some very diverse opinions shared.

Ben Raines

perhaps strong opinions....

[The_Seeker]

I read Rough Stone Rolling while I was investigating the church. It's been a while since I read it last, so the details are starting to get a little fuzzy -- I should read the book again. I think Bushman did a very even-handed job of portraying Joseph Smith, and it puzzles me that some church members have a negative reaction to the book.

Then again, I had read No Man Knows My History first, so that might color my perception a bit.

[Moksha]

I have always like George Santayana's saying that "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Thank goodness Richard Bushman gave us a fairly accurate and approved history book.

[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by ceeboo

Not being a member, I would be SHOCKED if 95% of LDS members do not know this.

Not arguing, just struck me as a VERY high percentage.

The people I've talked to who had heard Joseph practiced polygamy thought he only married widows because there was no one to take care of them.

Like always, with my family, I'm wrong . . . until they discover I'm right.

And Elphaba is ALWAYS right. Right MOE?

Elphaba

[rockwoodchev]

Originally Posted by Moksha

I have always like George Santayana's saying that "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Thank goodness Richard Bushman gave us a fairly accurate and approved history book.

I'm not sure that you can say this is an "Approved History Book" Just because it is sold at Deseret Book doesn't mean it is "approved". Actually, if you listen to the bushman interviews with John Dehlin, Bushman mentions that the church has gotten out of the business of releasing history books.

One thing that amazes me is when some of you will mention that why would anyone read this type of book when you can just pray for a witness. With all the push in our church about keeping and reading history of the church. We study it once every 4 years, but in my mind, most people know very little about the history of our early leaders. In reality, there is very little that is in the official material that is even true.
How many people know the real story about polygamy and polyandry?
How many people know the real story about the peepstone and the "translation process"
How many people know about the Kinderhook Plates?
How many people know about the history about the Book of Abraham?

It just seems weird that in books like our study guides like Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, not one single word is mentioned about Polygamy. But... when a book like RSR is read, it is all over the place. Crazy...

For me... RSR cemented in my mind many problems with early history of the church. If Joseph Smith was willing to "lie for the Lord" about Spiritual Wifery, what else would he lie about? I've yet to answer that question.

Originally Posted by rockwoodchev

How many people know about the Kinderhook Plates?
How many people know about the history about the Book of Abraham?

Hi rockwoodchev,

What are the " Kinderhook Plates "?

What is the history about the Book of Abraham ??

Thanks
Curious Ceeboo

[Hemidakota]

Noting several books, I would recommend if you can understand the mindset of Hugh's [Nibley] multiply thought processes, it is the best book for research.

Some further thought on this topic: Hugh W. Nibley: "Judging and Prejudging the Book of Abraham"

Nibley on the Facsimiles

[Hemidakota]

Before Kerry Shirts shows up and beats me to the pulp, I do consider Kerry's work just as impressive as Nibleys work.