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10-29-2009, 12:08 AM
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What did Jesus teach his Apostles that is not in the Bible?
After Jesus was resurrected he taught his Apostles “things pertaining to the kingdom of G-d”. This is recorded in a quiet little verse in Acts Chapter 1 verse 3. These teachings lasted for 40 days.
There are a few things I would like to point out:
1. There are not 40 days worth of teachings from Jesus recorded in the gospels. We have bits and pieces here and there but nothing along the line of 40 days worth of teachings
2. I do not know of any references in the Bible to any of the teachings from Jesus to his Apostles during these 40 days.
3. Non Biblical sources (mostly Gnostic) claim that these teachings were “kept secret” among the Apostles and generally were not taught to the rank and file members of the new church.
It could be argued that these were not new teachings but can be found elsewhere in scripture, this is a nice theory but I find no such explanation or any such reference in scripture. It is interesting to me in all the documents we have not a single writer of the New Testament ever makes reference to anything taught during those 40 days. No one says anything like – “pay close attention this because what I am telling you I learned from Jesus during the 40 days of his teachings before he was taken to heaven.”
I think we can conclude that anything taught by Jesus is quite important. Since the LDS believe in a restoration of all things taught to the ancient Apostles – I believe the LDS have access to these important teachings. My concern in posting this is that important teachings are missing and many “Christians” do not know and perhaps do not care what Jesus taught his Apostles during those 40 days.
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The tradition is that Jesus taught the secrets during those 40 days in a cave on the Mount of Olives opposite the Garden of Gethsemane. If they were just regular teachings, why teach them in a cave or secretive place?
The current Biblical Archaeological Review discusses the Secret Book of Mark, which definitely suggests secret rites being done by Jesus. Read about it: Bible History & Archaeology Published by the Biblical Archaeology Society | Biblical Archaeology Review
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10-29-2009, 11:14 AM
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Thank you for your input. I did a quick review of Secret Mark on the internet. It is interesting but I have not been able to find any reference to the 40 day teachings. There are references to things present in Secret Mark not in the Biblical Mark. It looks like most scholars think Mark to be an abrigment of Secret Mark.
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The two quotes from the book given here:
“Secret Mark”: An Amazing Discovery | Biblical Archaeology Review | Bible History Articles
appears to contain some teachings that might be related to temple waching and annointings. (Noting that the teachings were warped, and the original meaning was attempted to be recovered.)
I can think of many sacred things which may have been taught, which were not revealed to the world...
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Well it must have been much easier to keep secret things secret back then. The Apocrypha was formed of book considered too sacred for regular people to read. That how the word Apocrypha came to mean "not as good as the rest of the Bible". People who hadn't been part of the group that could read apochryphal books became leader of the church and looked down on the books.
The Secret Book of Mark sounds interesting. I love Non-Biblical stuff.
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There has to be many teaching that never made the Bible. Probably there were stories whose meaning was never understood.
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A few points: There is nothing in Acts that tell us that what Jesus taught his apostles were "secrets". We also know that what he was teaching during that time were not nifty stories to warm people’s hearts. He was teaching doctrines specific to the Kingdom of G-d.
I would think that salvation is directly linked to the Kingdom of G-d. There are two points that I think are important.
1. That Jesus taught these things at a particular important time of his ministry. Perhaps the most important time that he was on the earth to teach mankind.
2. That traditional Christianity does not have access to these teachings and from all that I can gather really do not care or desire access to this doctrine.
I wonder if it is possible that these teachings may be in part the oil in the lamps of the 5 wise virgins awaiting his coming?
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Interesting train of thought, Traveler. As Christ was a resurrected being during the 40 days, anything He taught the Apostles would be considered direct revelation from a glorified being. Perhaps this is analogous to the way members nowadays learn doctrine like this- through direct revelation from the Holy Ghost or ministering angels.
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There are hints of secret teachings in the Bible. The Mount of Transfiguration is a very clear one. The three apostles were told not to share it with anyone at the time. And we still do not know what occurred there, except that Moses, Elias and Elijah showed up. LDS would think temple rites occurred there, including the passing on of priesthood keys. But most Christians really do not know, as it is way out of their liturgy.
Here are some websites discussing Christ's teachings in the cave on the Mt of Olives:
Church on the Mount of Olives (Eleona) - OrthodoxWiki
Christians and the Holy Places (see the quote on page 147 from Demonstratio Evangelica)
Jerusalem - Beyond the Old City Walls (search for the word 'caves')
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What did Jesus teach his Apostles that is not in the Bible?
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What parts of the restored gospel and of the kingdom of God do we enjoy today that are not taught (overtly) in the scriptures?
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