Beer Good. Meat Bad. But we do the opposite.

[mrmarklin]

The WoW was not fully enforced until relatively recently, namely 1930. In 1930, it was decided that ot be temple worthy, the WoW had to be complied with, and it is very specific that the BIG FOUR, namely, Alcohol, Tobacco, Coffee and Tea were the absolute prohibitions. That continuing revelation stuff. That's what we live by today, and is required of us.
It is a well known fact that many church leaders did not obey the WoW by those standards prior to 1930, and coffee drinking was extremely common in the church prior to that time.

The winter home of Brigham Young in St George Utah is full of wine decanters used by the prophet himself, as an example of the above.

[Cydonia]

Originally Posted by ryanh

The WoW as given in D&C has some rather difficult phrasing for 2009 english readers to grasp.

No it doesn't.

As to continuing revelation--When was further revelation given? As far as I can find no further revelations have been provided for the Word of Wisdom after it was given to Joseph Smith Jr. Could you point me to where a prophet added further or new revelation to it?

[skippy740]

What part of "following the prophet" don't you understand?

You can argue the semantics of the written word all day long. But in the end, it is how well we follow the counsel of the revealed word in our lives. That means forsaking all alcohol, tea, tobacco and coffee - REGARDLESS of how it is written.

"A living prophet is more important than a dead prophet." - Ezra T. Benson

[ryanh]

Originally Posted by Cydonia

As to continuing revelation--When was further revelation given?

Case in point for my conclusion that you interpret some things wrongly. Where did I say "revelation"?

Were you aware that the forbidding of meats by some is addressed in both the NT and D&C? Or did you choose to interpret those in your own way too?

[Cydonia]

Originally Posted by ryanh

Case in point for my conclusion that you interpret some things wrongly. Where did I say "revelation"?

Um...I wasn't talking to you there, Ryanh. Read the post directly above my last one.

Skippy740, I'd love to follow the words of a living prophet (or even a more recent one). Has one offered revelation on the Word of Wisdom? Could someone point to that revelation?

The last revelation I have is from the D&C. Brigham Young added his own interpretation that hot drinks are coffee and tea based on the drinks in common use, so I'm happy to accept that.

But I can't find anything specifying when a prophet had it revealed to him that meat should not be eaten sparingly or that beer was bad. I'm legitimately asking where these notions came from and whether they're just hearsay that became doctrine or if there's a real revelation behind them.

[pam]

While I don't know if there has been "revelation," numerous Prophets and other leaders of the Church since Joseph Smith's time have spoken or written on the subject:

LDS.org - Ensign Article - A Principle with a Promise

LDS.org - Ensign Article - “Not for the Body�

LDS.org - Ensign Article - The Word of Wisdom: The Principle and the Promises

LDS.org - Ensign Article - The Word of Wisdom

[Vort]

Originally Posted by Cydonia

So why do we interpret and not follow the guideline as written?

Cydonia, I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.

We are not "required" to follow any of the commandments, in the sense of being constrained. We are allowed to choose for ourselves.

Do you want to be a member of the kingdom of God, in full fellowship with the Saints? Then follow the current teachings on the Word of Wisdom. Do you not care about such things? Then follow whatever blows your skirt up.

[xforeverxmetalx]

"Any form of alcohol is harmful to your body and spirit." -For the Strength of the Youth

if that's not revelation, I don't know what else you want.

[ryanh]

How is it you came to the conclusion "meat bad" as you included in the title of this thread Cydonia?

[havejoy]

Section 89 : 10-11
10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome herbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man— 11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with prudence and thanksgiving.




So....is marijuana a wholesome herb?