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Did your ward receive letters from the First Presidency ?
We had quite a few letters read to us about self awarness groups and having bringing another person into a sexual exchange....
During the Self Awarness letter I was a little bit confused...They said they discourged groups that made you get up early or were late at night. Isn't that kind of what seminary is?
Maybe I'm missing something?
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11-07-2010, 05:49 PM
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I don't recall these letters. Could you please tell us more about each one?
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11-07-2010, 05:52 PM
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We had quite a few letters read to us about self awarness groups and having bringing another person into a sexual exchange....
During the Self Awarness letter I was a little bit confused...They said they discourged groups that made you get up early or were late at night. Isn't that kind of what seminary is?
Maybe I'm missing something?
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Haha, I thought of that too. I think it may have been a poorly worded way of describing things to look out for that these "self-awareness" groups are conspicuously known for. Making you get up early or going in late at night is just one of those attributes.
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11-07-2010, 05:57 PM
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well, I think one was referring to groups relating to sex....like groups that encourged husbands and wives to have a 3rd person in their relationship. That what I got from it.
And..i kinda forget what the other letters were about. I think there was more then one...
Is there a place to view them on lds.org?
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11-07-2010, 05:58 PM
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For those of you who haven't got the faintest clue what this 1st pres letter was about, you're fine.
For those of you who do, I'm sure you're not surprised to discover the church is against them.
LM
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11-07-2010, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lizzy12
well, I think one was referring to groups relating to sex....like groups that encourged husbands and wives to have a 3rd person in their relationship. That what I got from it.
And..i kinda forget what the other letters were about. I think there was more then one...
Is there a place to view them on lds.org?
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LDS Church News - From the First Presidency
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11-07-2010, 06:03 PM
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The letters were read last week during Sacrament.
I like what LM said, and I second that.
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11-07-2010, 06:26 PM
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I think this is the third time I've seen this letter sent from the First Presidency in the past 12 years. Clearly it continues to be a problem.
Some things to consider: Anyone who promotes that they can increase your spirituality for a commercial fee is exploiting you. Spirituality can be developed independently of money (make the arguments about tithing as much as you wish, but until you can demonstrate that individuals are benefiting from the collection of tithes, it isn't the same thing).
Seminary wouldn't fall into this category because it is not a commercial enterprise. Early morning seminary teachers volunteer their time and don't normally encourage you to violate gospel principles.
Anyway, your instincts are usually very good at figuring out when a program is trying to exploit you and when it isn't. If you have doubts, check with your priesthood leaders. Usually they know what programs are sanctioned by the Church, or at least can find out.
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I think this is the third time I've seen this letter sent from the First Presidency in the past 12 years. Clearly it continues to be a problem.
Some things to consider: Anyone who promotes that they can increase your spirituality for a commercial fee is exploiting you. Spirituality can be developed independently of money (make the arguments about tithing as much as you wish, but until you can demonstrate that individuals are benefiting from the collection of tithes, it isn't the same thing).
Seminary wouldn't fall into this category because it is not a commercial enterprise. Early morning seminary teachers volunteer their time and don't normally encourage you to violate gospel principles.
Anyway, your instincts are usually very good at figuring out when a program is trying to exploit you and when it isn't. If you have doubts, check with your priesthood leaders. Usually they know what programs are sanctioned by the Church, or at least can find out.
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Scientology?
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11-07-2010, 07:21 PM
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I was thinking Living Scriptures.
"You want to have the spirit in your home, don't you?"
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If I were rich, I'd have the time that I lack, to sit in the synagogue and pray.
And maybe have a seat by the Eastern wall.
And I'd discuss the holy books with the learned men, several hours every day.
That would be the sweetest thing of all.
Ohhh....
If I were a rich man...
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