What do you think about this...

LDSChristian · #1 (**permalink**) 02-23-2011, 10:47 AM

For God so loved the world, he and his only Begotten Son appeared to Joseph Smith for the time drew near for the everlasting gospel to be upon the earth. And whosoever believeth in the everlasting gospel of Jesus Christ, which are his very teachings, shall not perish but have everlasting life.

Made it up myself.

rameumptom · #2 (**permalink**) 02-23-2011, 02:11 PM

Not bad, but I prefer the original. Through Joseph Smith they restored the fullness of the gospel. But God so loved the world that he gave his Only Begotten Son as a sacrifice for the world that whoso should believe on him should not perish, but have everlasting life (John 3:16).

Because of the atonement of Christ, almost all mankind will be saved in a kingdom of glory/heaven. Very few will become sons of perdition, and that is because they absolutely and completely refuse his gift.

Mormons, other Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Jainists, atheists, agnostics, virtuous and honorable people, murderers, adulterers, liars, men, women, black, white, slave, free, will all be saved.

THAT is the amazing story in all of this.

Many Christians do not understand how all-encompassing the atonement is. Calvinists believe in a limited atonement. Other Christians think Mormons and other non-traditional Christians will burn in hell. These believe that Jews, Muslims, and other non-Christians will all rot in hell, whether they were good or not, whether they had a chance to hear the gospel or not.

So, through Joseph Smith this wonderful understanding of the completeness of the atonement is brought back to the earth. But the atonement itself was accomplished for all mankind in all times, places and circumstances. And that is all Jesus Christ.

mnn727 · #3 (**permalink**) 02-24-2011, 07:41 AM

Sorry, don't really care for it myself. The original is a better statement on what happened and why. Salvation has always been available, even without Joseph Smith and the restoration. (Exaltation may or may not be a different story).

Traveler · #4 (**permalink**) 02-24-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LDSChristian

For God so loved the world, he and his only Begotten Son appeared to Joseph Smith for the time drew near for the everlasting gospel to be upon the earth. And whosoever believeth in the everlasting gospel of Jesus Christ, which are his very teachings, shall not perish but have everlasting life.

Made it up myself.

Over emphasizing the first vision skews reality. For example one may become to believe that G-d the Father and G-d the Son, Jesus the Christ should appear to anyone curious about religion because he loves us all.

The first vision was necessary to break away from the false teachings of the Trinity and prove the wisdom of men faulty. But like that star at the birth of Christ the first vision fulfilled prophesy but not in any way that it could be interpreted by the so called scriptural experts. And like the birth of Jesus - angles will proclaim to some concerning the restoration - but for the most part the most of us will have to come to understand the truth without such manifestations - and G-d loves those that believe without angelic manifestations just as much as those with manifestations.

The Traveler

LDSChristian · #5 (**permalink**) 02-24-2011, 09:11 AM

I'm not replacing anything. Geez. I love John 3:16. It just gave me this idea. I just love the First Vision. Can't help it. I just love the fact that God the Father and Jesus Christ came to the earth and because Christ announced his ultimate wisdom as he always did/does.

LDSChristian · #6 (**permalink**) 02-24-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mnn727

(Exaltation may or may not be a different story).

Which is important.

slamjet · #7 (**permalink**) 02-24-2011, 09:22 AM

I was going to rant about your false doctrine, your pride for rewriting scriptures, how dare you judge the Scriptures inadequate

But in reality if it helps you personally put things into perspective and understanding, then it's kind-of cool. I'm sure as you get along further in life and understanding these definitions will change. It's called expanding our understanding of the Word. How many times have we done this in our heads.

But for me personally, it's interesting, but not my cup of tea.

LDSChristian · #8 (**permalink**) 02-24-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by slamjet

I was going to rant about your false doctrine, your pride for rewriting scriptures, how dare you judge the Scriptures inadequate

But in reality if it helps you personally put things into perspective and understanding, then it's kind-of cool. I'm sure as you get along further in life and understanding these definitions will change. It's called expanding our understanding of the Word. How many times have we done this in our heads.

But for me personally, it's interesting, but not my cup of tea.

lol I didn't mean it to be scripture. Just a quote by me of course. I understand scriptures. What I said has nothing really to do with them. The language of the scriptures was just the only thing I could think of that worked.

"your pride for rewriting scriptures"
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