First Article Of Faith

<div align="center">The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. [/b][/quote]

How many times have you personally said to some one that - YES, I am a Christian. YES I beleive in God, the Eternal Father. Yes I believe in His Son, Jesus Christ. YES I believe in the Holy Ghost. Just to have them tell you that no you don't.

How often have we all explained this time and again to investigators here on this Forum? I sometimes wonder if they will ever get it. Will they ever understand and accept that YES, the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are christians. That we not only believe in, we worship God, the Eternal Father, and we worship His Son, Jesus Christ.

[Dr T]

I think the divisiveness comes from what Hinckley said about not believe in the classic/historical Jesus of the Bible. He believes in the Jesus that Joseph Smith taught. Just a thought about where this might be coming from.

Dr. T

[GB-UK]

I think the divisiveness comes from what Hinckley said about not believe in the classic/historical Jesus of the Bible. He believes in the Jesus that Joseph Smith taught. Just a thought about where this might be coming from.

Dr. T
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Interesting, could you point me to a link that has what President Hinckley said please?

[Lindy]

1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. [/b]

How many times have you personally said to some one that - YES, I am a Christian. YES I beleive in God, the Eternal Father. Yes I believe in His Son, Jesus Christ. YES I believe in the Holy Ghost. Just to have them tell you that no you don't.

How often have we all explained this time and again to investigators here on this Forum? I sometimes wonder if they will ever get it. Will they ever understand and accept that YES, the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are christians. That we not only believe in, we worship God, the Eternal Father, and we worship His Son, Jesus Christ.
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And I'll add.... we DO NOT worship Joseph Smith

I get tired of hearing that we do

[Dr T]

Hello GB-UK,

"In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints 'do not believe in the traditional Christ.' 'No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fullness of Times. He together with His Father, appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages.'" (LDS Church News Week ending June 20, 1998, p.7 )[/b]

I tried to get the whole thing from LDS.org library and couldn't. Maybe you can have better luck.

Thanks,

Dr. T

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1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. [/b]

How many times have you personally said to some one that - YES, I am a Christian. YES I beleive in God, the Eternal Father. Yes I believe in His Son, Jesus Christ. YES I believe in the Holy Ghost. Just to have them tell you that no you don't.

How often have we all explained this time and again to investigators here on this Forum? I sometimes wonder if they will ever get it. Will they ever understand and accept that YES, the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are christians. That we not only believe in, we worship God, the Eternal Father, and we worship His Son, Jesus Christ. [/b][/quote]
And I'll add.... we DO NOT worship Joseph Smith

Amen to that! </span>
I also get tired when they argue with me telling me WHAT I do believe in ~ and it is all anti stuff that they have heard.

Dr. T, Pres. Hinckley qualified his reference to the "traditional Jesus of Christianity" elsewhere by referring to the countless councils seeking to define his nature, essence, etc... and saying that Joseph Smith didn't have to interpret scripture alone...he talked to God the Father and Jesus in person.

His quote gets twisted to somehow mean we don't believe in Jesus as a Savior. After all, Christianity is built on the belief in Jesus as our personal Savior. So it's not hard for enemies of the Church to say, "Pres. Hinkcley doesn't believe in the Christian Jesus," and imply that LDS aren't Christians and that Joseph Smith invented another Christ with other powers or duties.

All it means is that we LDS aren't confused or uncertain about Christ's nature, form, likeness, etc... He has an exalted body of flesh and bones, as does his Father. Regardless of what someone believes about their essence, the one thing we agree on is that Jesus is the only way to the Father.

That's what counts...and that's what gets suppressed when quoting Pres. Hinckley on the matter.

[Dr T]

Thanks AK,

I see/understand your position. I am learning however that the Biblical version of Jesus is different in essence and this is what Mr. Hinkley is comfortable claiming believing in a different Jesus. Bibically, I have never heard a Christian claim that Jesus was a man exalted to Godhood. In that, the versions are different.

Dr. T

Which is precisely what I said.

However, whenever someone repeats this quote of Pres. Hinckley, it's most often to try to show that LDS don't believe in the Savior of the Bible, the alternative being some heretical invention of a boy named Joseph Smith. That's what annoys me.

[GB-UK]

Hello GB-UK,

I tried to get the whole thing from LDS.org library and couldn't. Maybe you can have better luck.

Thanks,

Dr. T
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So where does it say he doesn't believe in the Jesus of the Bible then?