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Church Discipline Question
My friend was excommunicated a couple of years back. He was an endowed member of the church, inactive for 15 years and even when active...not really. He was just going through the motions to please family. He has since returned to church and was exed after confessing to numerous adulteries and fornications after divorce.
His former wife (endowed) has now returned after 15 years of inactivity and has confessed to fornications after divorce and well, no disciplinary action towards her other than briefly abstaining from the Sacrament? Two different Bishops....same Stake President. Odd?
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03-04-2012, 07:37 PM
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Not odd at all.
Outside of the "non negotiable," It's case-by-case and a lot of the decision to ex someone comes from where they are at in their attitude towards what they've done wrong. If they come in with a contrite spirit, they have a better chance of not being ex'd. If they have a lackadaisical attitude about their sins, well, they are not serious about repentance and need to get to that point before they can continue in membership within the church. I think it's wonderful because it shows that 99.999% of the time, the facts and the person is taken into consideration and not just a blanket judgement. At least that's been my experience and understanding.
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03-04-2012, 07:46 PM
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The stake president is responsible for Mel priesthood holders and will handle their church councils unles he directs the bishop to handle. The sisters case was handled by her bishop. Not odd at all. Each case is always different
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03-04-2012, 07:50 PM
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Seems odd...given they both broke Temple Covenants involving chastity issues. FYI....both came in on their own, humbly seeking to repent.
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03-04-2012, 07:54 PM
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03-04-2012, 07:57 PM
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You don't think adultery is a bigger deal than fornication? I sure do.
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03-04-2012, 07:59 PM
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So, do you think she would have been ex'ed if she had committed adultery rather just numerous fornications?
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03-04-2012, 08:01 PM
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I think it would be more likely. She'd have been breaking covenants against 2 beings/people instead of just one.
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03-04-2012, 08:04 PM
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I have seen return missionaries, unwed violate LOC and get ex'ed.
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