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Max Skousen - Looking Beyond the Mark
Hi all,
Has anyone here read Max Skousen's "Looking Beyond the Mark" books? I've only been able to find them as pdfs: Max Skousen-Looking Beyond the Mark If any have read these, what are your thoughts? Have you found them helpful for any gospel/spiritual insights? I read them a year or so ago and found them very helpful, I'm curious what some others who have read them think of them. Thanks =) 
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05-01-2012, 08:34 AM
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Max was a mystic, first and foremost. And as such, his views on religion and spirituality were extremely idiosyncratic.
So he carries on at great length about pride and "ornaments upon the tree" and doesn't realize that 90% of that message was for him alone; tailored to his weaknesses and needs. So if the reader has his exact set of weaknesses, then they are well served to read his books. If not, then they are still of interest, but perhaps not quite as useful. Max deeply saddened many of his fans by publishing his temple book. He has been spoken of in other threads in this site, you can search on it. HiJolly
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05-01-2012, 09:06 AM
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Hi Jolly....you often reference being a mystic. Could you explain a bit more about being a mystic?
Thanks- Bytor
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05-01-2012, 10:57 AM
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root of mystic is mystery!
Briefly put, a mystic is someone who has had a personal experience with God, typically referred to as a "one-ness" with God. It can also include people who have successfully disciplined their left-brain into a non-functioning state, to produce an effect of right-brain only processing which is a roughly mystical state of mind. See Jill Bolte Taylor's stroke of insight | Video on TED.com
It can also include people who haven't had the experience, but are trying for it. Links that might help: Mysticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Christian Mystic Explained What is Christian mysticism? The Mystical Gnosis Event and the atheist That last one is really interesting. The guy was and is an atheist. Just about made me cry when he describes seeing the old bearded guy. HiJolly
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05-01-2012, 11:20 AM
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05-01-2012, 11:40 AM
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Not likely...
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Wait---- That was a rhetorical question, right? I mean, since the Church teaches that if you're not LDS you can't have the Gift of the Holy Ghost... And I'm assuming you believe that? HJ
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05-01-2012, 02:00 PM
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