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One true church of Christ?
I have the testimony that the LDS church is the most righteous church on Earth.
I also remember from the last general conference (Friday night or Sunday Morning) that one of the speakers acknowledged he gave a talk in the morning and later realized in the afternoon or evening that his morning talk was incorrect and then provided the right talk.
Could someone please find out exactly which talk this was?
I am trying to define exactly what the term {One true church of Christ} means.
The Catholic church seems to think that the pope is infallible whenever he speaks from his chair.
That one of your leaders acknowledged that a talk that he gave was incorrect would seem to explicitly acknowledge human fallibility. Exactly where does one draw the line between inherent human fallibility and the meaning of the term {One true church of Christ} ?
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05-04-2012, 07:13 AM
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Well the meaning of the one true church of Christ isn't, "The leaders are infallible." So that is where I would draw the line.
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Just as in ancient times the infallible truth of the church is not in the human individuals that are members – for a leader is nothing more than just another human member (ancient examples of the fallibility of leaders are in King David and the prophet Jonah). The truth is in the covenants given, received and therefore upheld within the church - thus the covenant is infallible – not any of the men. Understanding covenants would bring a person to understand that for each individual following – they are thus more important in upholding their covenant than are their leaders. For this reason no LDS leader is sustained in their calling nor is law given without the consent of the each individual receiving the covenant. This understanding, in essence, is why the LDS is the only true church.
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05-04-2012, 07:57 AM
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Well the meaning of the one true church of Christ isn't, "The leaders are infallible." So that is where I would draw the line.
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So the prophet could provide a message that he thought was from the Holy Spirit and later change his mind?
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05-04-2012, 08:12 AM
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I also remember from the last general conference (Friday night or Sunday Morning) that one of the speakers acknowledged he gave a talk in the morning and later realized in the afternoon or evening that his morning talk was incorrect and then provided the right talk.
Could someone please find out exactly which talk this was?
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Um, no, if you are claiming such, you have the obligation to find out exactly which talk this was.
BTW, General Conference isn't on Friday nights.
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Um, no, if you are claiming such, you have the obligation to find out exactly which talk this was.
BTW, General Conference isn't on Friday nights.
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The priesthood session of the general (rather than stake) conference.
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The priesthood session of the general (rather than stake) conference.
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Dude, the priesthood session of General Conference is always on SATURDAY night, not Friday night.
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05-04-2012, 08:38 AM
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Dude, the priesthood session of General Conference is always on SATURDAY night, not Friday night.
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Well I guess that I forgot this. It was a weekend night so I remembered it incorrectly.
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Priesthood Session isn't on Friday nights either. No wonder you can't find it.
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Originally Posted by peteolcott
I also remember from the last general conference (Friday night or Sunday Morning) that one of the speakers acknowledged he gave a talk in the morning and later realized in the afternoon or evening that his morning talk was incorrect and then provided the right talk.
Could someone please find out exactly which talk this was?
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I am sure I would remember this if it had happened, so I think you are misremembering.
The only people who speak more than once at General Conference are members of the First Presidency. So if this had happened, it would have been Brother Monson, Brother Eyring, or Brother Uchtdorf.
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Originally Posted by peteolcott
That one of your leaders acknowledged that a talk that he gave was incorrect would seem to explicitly acknowledge human fallibility. Exactly where does one draw the line between inherent human fallibility and the meaning of the term {One true church of Christ} ?
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Again, I disbelieve that this happened, so until you can provide some evidence, I will believe it did not.
Nevertheless, I could believe such a thing could occur. What of it? How would human fallibility -- something the Church and its leaders have always acknowledged -- have any bearing on the LDS Church being Christ's true Church? Even the Book of Mormon, which Joseph Smith said was "the most correct book" on the Earth, freely admits the possibility of error on the very first page and numerous other times throughout.
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