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08-13-2007, 12:20 AM
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Dr. Robert Millet has passed away, so they will have to find a replacement for him.[/b]
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Well, obviously I didn't.
I don't know who I'm thinking of, but Dr. Millet is alive and kicking.
Hope I didn't scare you!
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What are the main differences between evangelism and mormonism anyway?
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08-13-2007, 06:54 AM
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Sounds like a very interesting discussion.
In the town where I live, as their are lots of Asians, we have interfaith groups and often talk together about Christianity and Islam. I have yet to attend one of the meetings, but would love to do so.
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There are way too many to talk about here, but some basic evangelical beliefs are: The Trinity (Father,Son,Holy Ghost are one in substance), the infallibility of the Bible and a closed canon of scriptures, salvation by grace alone, those that do not believe exactly what they do will go to hell, even if they were good people, they don't believe in vicarious ordinances, and based on their television shows, I get the feeling that they think all muslims are bad and that they can invoke the power of God at will.
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08-13-2007, 01:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure I've posted about this a couple times.
It's sounds like an outgrowth of the Mormon and Evangelical in Dialogue I told you about.[/b]
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You have mentioned going to these types of seminars in CA. BUT...I found the internet link. :P
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Evangelism is not an organized church. It's just a program that they are selling which is pronounced "money, money, money." They conduct their business on the pulpits of another man's church or a football stadium.
They should be listed under "opportunities" in the classifieds with all the other fakes, frauds and scammers.[/b]
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Wow. So much for standing together. I guess President Hinkley felt differently. When he was asked to allow evanglist Revi Zacharia to speak at the Tabernacle, his response was, "Sounds like a good idea." It happened in 2005.
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What are the main differences between evangelism and mormonism anyway?
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There are way too many to talk about here, but some basic evangelical beliefs are: The Trinity (Father,Son,Holy Ghost are one in substance), the infallibility of the Bible and a closed canon of scriptures, salvation by grace alone, those that do not believe exactly what they do will go to hell, even if they were good people, they don't believe in vicarious ordinances, and based on their television shows, I get the feeling that they think all muslims are bad and that they can invoke the power of God at will.
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Not terrible, but not perfect either. Those that go to hell will be determined by God, based on whether they repented and gave their hearts and lives over to Jesus. There is some diversity on various doctrines within evangelicalism, and certainly within protestantism. In fact, most evangelicals believe most other protestants AND CAtholics will be heaven. We do fear for those who do not personally commune with Jesus, and who rely on works and rituals for their salvation.
As for the Muslim phenomenon, there are plenty on this site who have expressed similar views. My sense is that the reaction to Islam is more political than theological.
Two other key differences are the belief that only God is eternal, that we had no premortal existence, and the belief that whatever wonderous glory we achieve in the Kingdom of God, we will never be what He is, and He was never what we are.
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08-13-2007, 03:45 PM
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<div class='quotemain'>Dr. Robert Millet has passed away, so they will have to find a replacement for him.[/b]
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Where did you read that?[/b]
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Well, obviously I didn't.
I don't know who I'm thinking of, but Dr. Millet is alive and kicking.
Hope I didn't scare you!
Elphaba
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I'm confused. Elph, didn't you originally say that he had passed away? That's what I'm reading. Then bc you posted that, Snow asked you where you read it.
Or am I missing something?
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We may never see the day in our lifetime when the majority of evangelicals and LDS are able to talk calmly and with AGAPE love towards one another. [/b]
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However this happens on an individual basis every single day and that is encouraging. I see no reason that a particular conference could not put aside differences and concentrate on commonalities.
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Evangelism is not an organized church. It's just a program that they are selling which is pronounced "money, money, money." They conduct their business on the pulpits of another man's church or a football stadium.
They should be listed under "opportunities" in the classifieds with all the other fakes, frauds and scammers.
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Wow. So much for standing together. I guess President Hinkley felt differently. When he was asked to allow evanglist Revi Zacharia to speak at the Tabernacle, his response was, "Sounds like a good idea." It happened in 2005. [/b]
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"Sounds like a good idea" is not endorsing evangelism. You can find listings for Evangelism Presbyterian, Evangelism Methodist, Evangelism Pentecostal, but you will NOT find a listing where evangelism and LDS are entitled.
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Evangelism is literally Good News telling. When you invite a friend to church, give them a Scripture, hand out a church-produced dvd, or simply offer to pray a blessing over someone, you are engaging in evangelism.
The most direct form of LDS evangelism would be when missionaries go tracting. We call that "cold turkey evanglism" (meaning you introduce someone to your faith without first developing a prior relationship).
My guess is that most LDS, including President Hinckley, would endorse evanglism in general. Furthermore, his "sounds like a good idea," resulted in a non-LDS evangelical evangelist preaching at the Tabernacle, with a plethora of LDS dignataries in approving attendence.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...h&plindex=0
Why wouldn't you endorse Good News sharing?
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Evangelism is literally Good News telling. When you invite a friend to church, give them a Scripture, hand out a church-produced dvd, or simply offer to pray a blessing over someone, you are engaging in evangelism.
The most direct form of LDS evangelism would be when missionaries go tracting. We call that "cold turkey evanglism" (meaning you introduce someone to your faith without first developing a prior relationship).
My guess is that most LDS, including President Hinckley, would endorse evanglism in general. Furthermore, his "sounds like a good idea," resulted in a non-LDS evangelical evangelist preaching at the Tabernacle, with a plethora of LDS dignataries in approving attendence.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...h&plindex=0
Why wouldn't you endorse Good News sharing? [/b]
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Develop a relationship with them? are you SERIOUS? Have you never seen those "loving" evangelicals outside of Temple Square? Or as in my own personal experience...at the Hill Comora Pageant....
I have also taken some direct hits from former pastors and friends of the family...not to mention family members!!!!
...I understand what you are saying...but I have not expierienced the "love" of Crhist at the hands of evangelicals...ESPECIALLY now that I am LDS, and since I left a Baptsit church.
... You, however...have been a nice breath of fresh air and a healing presence for me!!!
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