Becoming Gods? Is this true?

[Snow]

Originally Posted by Malachi7

Snow, one cannot prove a negative. Yes, it's an informed assertion on my part.

Do you know of one that does accept the LDS religion as Christian? Thus far even the Episcopal church doesn't. But it wouldn't surprise me if they started accepting just about anything and everything as they're headed for deep left field foul ball territory the way it is.

P.S. I'm sorry I don't meet your standards of what's considered substance.

Three points:

1. I knew you couldn't prove your false claim and that you wouldn't even bother trying.

2. News flash: It ain't a negative assertion. It was a positive assertion. It could be proven by posting an official statement of position from each Christian denomination.

3. I was not the one asserting - you were. You bear the burden of proof. I personally don't make factual assertions that are untrue and that I can't backup... it's an ethical matter.

[Malachi7]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Malachi: You're obviously not here to engage in dialogue here, but to preach. I suggest you stop.

Seraphim

When religious discussion takes place both sides preach.

Just like the LDS missionaries going door to door.

If you want it to be one-sided preaching, I see no reason to hang around.

Bye.

[Snow]

Originally Posted by Malachi7

When religious discussion takes place both sides preach.

Just like the LDS missionaries going door to door.

If you want it to be one-sided preaching, I see no reason to hang around.

Bye.

Typical juvenile drive-by.

It's not the preaching that's the problem, it's the lack of honesty. Pity that those that claim to be Christian do hold themselves to a standard of Christian or ethical behavior.

[VisionOfLehi]

Well, sorry about the misinformation about the link...

I thought we were under our own volition and could decide whether or not to click upon such a link. My bad. I guess, Malachi, that you've got some mind control on me. Sorry.

I could understand if it had some obscene title, or if it led directly to a site that was hateful... but members of the Church have a habit of calling any material that doesn't agree with us "anti", which is a rather negative label when some people are just expressing their beliefs. Granted, a good deal of it is derogatory, but not all of it.


I'll just be on my way now.

[Snow]

Originally Posted by VisionOfLehi

Well, sorry about the misinformation about the link...

I thought we were under our own volition and could decide whether or not to click upon such a link. My bad. I guess, Malachi, that you've got some mind control on me. Sorry.

I could understand if it had some obscene title, or if it led directly to a site that was hateful... but members of the Church have a habit of calling any material that doesn't agree with us "anti", which is a rather negative label when some people are just expressing their beliefs. Granted, a good deal of it is derogatory, but not all of it.


I'll just be on my way now.

You are under your own volition. You can click any link you want but this site is not compelled to assist in the propagation of anti-Mormon bigotry. I didn't see the link so I can't comment on the appropriateness of the website but it is reasonable that an LDS forum exercise discretion about what constitutes appropriate posting

[VisionOfLehi]

Yeah, sounds more dictatorial than discretionary in this instance, but c'est la vie. I didn't want to read it anyway.

[a-train]

I still haven't been able, in the first place, to locate anywhere where the LDS scriptures or prophets have told us that we are NOT gods, but we CAN BECOME gods.

Anyone have anything on that?

Before we get into debating whether the notion is true or not, can we even find any indication that it is a doctrine of Mormonism?

-a-train

[skalenfehl]

I don't think such a scripture exists in any of the standard works. I tried looking and cross referencing, but couldn't find anything. I could still be wrong, though. Sorry, bud.

Originally Posted by skalenfehl

a-train I don't believe there is any scripture that says men can 'become gods', but there are several in the D&C that say men can 'become sons of God'. Only in Psalms and John do we read word for word that men are gods. Perhaps you read this in discourses of Joseph Smith or Brigham Young, etc?

D&C 34:3
D&C 35:2
D&C 45:8

[VisionOfLehi]

Originally Posted by a-train

Can anyone refresh my memory and tell me what verse tells us that men can 'become gods'? I can think of some that say men 'are gods', but I am unable to remember any verse that says men can 'become gods'.

I have heard much talk from the brethren about becoming like Heavenly Father, becoming like God, becoming as God or as gods, but what do we have that tells us we are not gods now but we have the potential to become gods?

-a-train

It's not Scripture. It comes from an old couplet

Question: "Don't Mormons believe that God was once a man?"

Hinckley: "I wouldn't say that. There was a little couplet coined, "As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become." Now that's more of a couplet than anything else."
- Interviewing Gordon B. Hinckley, San Francisco Chronicle, April 13, 1997, p 3/Z1

[Malachi7]

Originally Posted by Snow

Three points:

1. I knew you couldn't prove your false claim and that you wouldn't even bother trying.

2. News flash: It ain't a negative assertion. It was a positive assertion. It could be proven by posting an official statement of position from each Christian denomination.

3. I was not the one asserting - you were. You bear the burden of proof. I personally don't make factual assertions that are untrue and that I can't backup... it's an ethical matter.

Southern Baptist statement in pdf format. Click here for html.

Leadership University

Lutheran Church statement

Presbyterian Church (USA) statement

Roman Catholic Church statement

United Methodist Church statement