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03-08-2008, 12:28 AM
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We may become gods thanks to the Atonement, but we will always worship our Father in Heaven. When His children become perfect like Him, He is glorified.
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03-08-2008, 12:28 AM
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I understand where you're coming from. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. Therefore the further teachings and revelations that we receive are from modern day revelation, as was the case in the Bible. Every generation had a modern day prophet until all was lost after Christ resurrected and the apostles were killed off.
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Sir, if you're telling me that it is by revelation that I should believe you when my Bible tells me nothing of men becoming Gods and then having children that hope to become Gods, I hope you'll understand that my Christian upbringing cause me to question your sense of revelation.
I mean no disrespect.
It's just that what you're telling me goes directly against what our Bible state.
We are creation of God and only God is God. We're not nor will we ever be.
I hope you'll understand when I say that, based on what you've told me, I understand why I've found so many websites written by Christians about your religion. What you're telling me here is very different from the message of Christian pastors, teachers, theologians, etc. Very different.
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03-08-2008, 12:29 AM
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Mormon.org is the place to go to start. I suggested you start at the beginning.
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03-08-2008, 12:30 AM
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Could you point me to a place on Mormon.org that will explain more about this Mormon concept?
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Here is a link that could help:
LDS.org - Liahona Article - Truth Restored
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03-08-2008, 12:37 AM
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No disrespect taken. I don't believe that what I have told you goes against the bible. For the very reason that we have differing interpretations of scripture are prophets and apostles necessary as was in the Bible. We have to proceed on the assumption that it is translated correctly and unmodified by scribes and clergymen through time.
For this reason did the Lord prepare another testament to come forth as the Book of Mormon. If this book is true, then Joseph Smith, who translated it (only one translation) was indeed called of God to restore His church with apostles and prophets to lead the church as they did in the times of the Bible. Our entire faith hinges on these facts. That is the challenge that we issue to the world and our evangelical mission to share that message.
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03-08-2008, 12:38 AM
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Mormon.org is the place to go to start. I suggested you start at the beginning.
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Wouldn't that be kind of like you asking about the Cathecism and a Catholic telling you to start at Genesis?
That wouldn't be a very polite Catholic, now would it.
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03-08-2008, 12:38 AM
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Hi:
I read on a website that it's a Mormon belief that you can become Gods and Goddesses.
And that you will have children after you die.
And that your children will later become Gods too...if they take on physical bodies.
Are they making that up about LDS beliefs?
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It is a belief that has been taught by some of the worlds great thinkers:
C.S Lewis
Sanatayana
Feuerbach
William Ellery Channing
Theodore Parker
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Margaret Fuller
Ralph Cudworth
Catherine of Genoa
etc
Before them can the medieval thinkers and theologians, like
Thomas Aquinas
Pseudo-Dionysius
Maximus the Confessor
etc
Before them came the early Patristic or Church Fathers. The doctrine was taught by most everyone:
St. Augustine
Appollinaris
Gregory of Nazianus
Basil of Caesaria
Athanasius
Origen
Clement of Alexandria
Irenaeus
...and on and on and on.
Where did they get it from?
From the Bible, both the New and Old Testament
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03-08-2008, 12:41 AM
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Sir, if you're telling me that it is by revelation that I should believe you when my Bible tells me nothing of men becoming Gods and then having children that hope to become Gods, I hope you'll understand that my Christian upbringing cause me to question your sense of revelation.
I mean no disrespect.
It's just that what you're telling me goes directly against what our Bible state.
We are creation of God and only God is God. We're not nor will we ever be.
I hope you'll understand when I say that, based on what you've told me, I understand why I've found so many websites written by Christians about your religion. What you're telling me here is very different from the message of Christian pastors, teachers, theologians, etc. Very different.
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Your reaction is common. The thing you have to see past, is being a literal spirit child of our Father in Heaven, rather than just a creation. We have a potential to be just like our Father in Heaven, just as Romans 8:16, 17 states.
Our teachings do not go against what the Bible says, it just goes counter to how you read and interpret the Bible.
As your mortal father is your father, and will always be your father, even tho you grow up and become a father yourself, so will G_d be our G_d, and will always be our G_d.
We will be the first to state that our teachings are different from mainstream Christianity, but we will also tell you they are restored truths.
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03-08-2008, 12:45 AM
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I really hope this won't turn into a Bible bashing session. I just wanted to point out that there are many different interpretations of many Biblical verses.
What does it mean to you in Genesis 3:22?
22 ¶ And the Lord God a said, Behold, the b man is become as one of c us, to d know good and e evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
I understand if you don't agree with our beliefs, but it bothers me when others insist we accept their Biblical interpretations.
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03-08-2008, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Snow
It is a belief that has been taught by some of the worlds great thinkers:
C.S Lewis
Sanatayana
Feuerbach
William Ellery Channing
Theodore Parker
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Margaret Fuller
Ralph Cudworth
Catherine of Genoa
etc
Before them can the medieval thinkers and theologians, like
Thomas Aquinas
Pseudo-Dionysius
Maximus the Confessor
etc
Before them came the early Patristic or Church Fathers. The doctrine was taught by most everyone:
St. Augustine
Appollinaris
Gregory of Nazianus
Basil of Caesaria
Athanasius
Origen
Clement of Alexandria
Irenaeus
...and on and on and on.
Where did they get it from?
From the Bible, both the New and Old Testament
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I'm not aware that any of these people taught that men could become Gods and have spirit-children that will later become Gods when they get physical bodies.
In fact, one website I read states that the concept isn't even found in the Book of Mormon.
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