Becoming Gods? Is this true? - Page 34

VisionOfLehi · #**331** (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 03:09 AM

We can't know which are and aren't, exactly, but we have the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants to fill in the blanks. Where those books of scripture clarify doctrine, then chances are that it was: a) mistranslated b) removed or c) not originally part of Bible.

Joseph Smith was doing some translation work of the Bible, and we have some of that. If you find the Joseph Smith translation, you can see what he was able to accomplish.

Hemidakota · #**332** (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 08:02 AM

Where do you want to start? Or what is missing since the time of Adam was commanded to keep a record. Or perhaps, we can look at the 'Song of Solomon' which has no inspiration and is not considered scripture? Then we have additional 5,000 plus scrolls that were not considered as canonized writings by the pagans and apostates of that time. lol

rameumptom · #**333** (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 09:45 AM

The Johanine Comma is commonly considered an added part to the Bible by Christians that sought to emphasize the Trinity.

Some books, such as the book of Enoch, Odes of Solomon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Shepherd of Hermas were considered scripture by early Christians, but rejected by St. Jerome, because he either didn't agree with the teachings within, or could not ensure the provenance of each book. As it is, he almost kicked Hebrews and Revelation out of the official canon, because of questionable provenance, but kept it in because the western Church insisted on them if they were to accept his list of books.

So, rather than nit-picking which things are of value in the Bible, we simply use the other LDS scriptures to help us understand and interpret the Bible according to God's revealed knowledge and wisdom.

HiJolly · #**334** (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hemidakota

Where do you want to start? Or what is missing since the time of Adam was commanded to keep a record. Or perhaps, we can look at the 'Song of Solomon' which has no inspiration and is not considered scripture? Then we have additional 5,000 plus scrolls that were not considered as canonized writings by the pagans and apostates of that time. lol

(bolded by me for emphasis)

Hemi, The Song of Solomon is a mystical text; For those who understand the language, it is exceptionally enlightening. Beautiful stuff.

HiJolly

rameumptom · #**335** (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 10:04 AM

I agree that the Song is a mystical text with much beautiful language. However, that is very different than whether a text is inspired, which was Hemi's statement.

I find the Song useful when I'm studying ancient poetic styles and concepts. I do not find value in it when it comes to issues of salvation.

crytsprospect · #**336** (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 10:33 AM

I agree on the salvation part but it is so beautiful

#**337** (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 09:17 PM

I'd like to skip back to a couple pages previous, now that I don't want to look for it. The church should understand why the ban on Blacks having the priesthood happened, if they read their scripures. Jacob five to be precise. And the introduction to the Book Of Mormon. Simple, Cain's decendants were cursed to not receive the priesthood til the last days until after Jews and Gentiles were given the blessings first. It would be interesting to find out if there were certain countries or continents that were opened up to the teaching of the Gospel just prior to the 1978 revelation. The Blacks receiving that right is a sign that the gospel is available to all now, because they were the last to receive it. I don't buy the racism thing. I believe in a God of one race and I believe that the true God is the father of Jesus Christ and Christ is at the head of this church. And Christ's doctrines do not involve racism, racism is a man made concept (maybe even a devious Satanic made concept).

rameumptom · #**338** (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 07:55 AM

You will find that most LDS scholars now reject the "Cain curse" ideology that Brigham Young promoted. It was not revealed by revelation, but was established from Pres Young's adapting 19th century Protestant belief to LDS scripture.

I recommend the following articles here at the Black LDS website (run by FAIR)

Church authorities gave Darius Gray the okay to state: While the ban was not started due to revelation, it was ended by revelation.

Hemidakota · #**339** (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 07:57 AM

Link not working

Hemidakota · #**340** (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 08:39 AM

I do love FAIR and what it provides as reasonable sound judgment to many answers from the critics but someone needs to address the Prophet Joseph Smith remarks and not President Young.

"...the curse is not yet taken off from the sons of Canaan, neither will be it is affected by as great a power as caused it to come; and the people who interfere the least with its purposes of God in this matter, will come under the least condemnation before Him; and those who are determined to purse a course, which shows an opposition, and a feverish restlessness against the degrees of the Lord, will learn when perhaps it is too late for their own good, that God can do His own work, without the aid of those who are not dictated by His council." [Documentary History of the Church pg438]