This is not an official website of the LDS Church.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You are not logged into the site. Please login or signup.
|
| Notices |
Welcome to the LDS.net forums. If you are a member of LDS.net, please login now. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us. |
 |
|

08-19-2008, 04:26 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: United States -
Posts: 633
Thanks: 81
Thanked 308 Times in 149 Posts
Laughs: 8
Got Laughs 12 Times in 7 Posts
|
|
Well that article was a whole lotta nothin'. How many times did they had to repeat it was a "spiritual crisis" that lead him out of Mormonism? At least he still seems respectful of the church, even if he's left it. No cries of "deception!" or anything.
__________________
And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
Isaiah 42:16
We have a secret in our society. It's not that childbirth is painful, it's that women are strong.
|

08-19-2008, 09:18 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: United States -
Posts: 310
Thanks: 5
Thanked 86 Times in 55 Posts
Laughs: 0
Got Laughs 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
This could be a matter of active faith getting in the way of a career. He may see the church and LDS cinema as being a hinderance to what he wants to do, so he is setting it aside for now. Just guessing but that is how it struck me first.
|

08-19-2008, 09:22 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 3,193
Thanks: 1,197
Thanked 524 Times in 347 Posts
Laughs: 164
Got Laughs 63 Times in 41 Posts
|
|
I thought the same as Flyonthewall...I think he wanted a bigger career than producing Mormon films would give him.
__________________
~~~True Grits~~~
"If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." (~~~St. Francis of Assisi~~~) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters." (~~~Alan Simpson~~~)
|

08-20-2008, 09:58 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: United States -
Posts: 995
Thanks: 174
Thanked 274 Times in 192 Posts
Laughs: 2
Got Laughs 3 Times in 2 Posts
|
|
Fair enough. So he's got some stuff to deal with. Just sounds like he's plain tired and probably needs to balance out his life a bit. Reminds me of jettisoning cargo to lighten a ship...not the best point at which to do your thinking...but sounds like he's in the process of working himself out..wherever that will take him.
|

08-20-2008, 11:20 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Age: 33
Posts: 3,110
Thanks: 212
Thanked 487 Times in 291 Posts
Laughs: 0
Got Laughs 4 Times in 3 Posts
|
|
Yeah, sounds like he used the church to get ahead in his career. Makes me happy I didn't like any of his movies that I saw.
__________________
Wickedness never was happiness.
|

08-20-2008, 01:06 PM
|
 |
Senior Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: United States -
Age: 44
Posts: 5,964
Thanks: 351
Thanked 858 Times in 406 Posts
Laughs: 7
Got Laughs 23 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
Well...here's some irony for you. I really enjoyed God's Army I, and found that it offered a compelling vision of your church. Yes, there was the one missionary who, struggling with his own doubts and consuming anti-LDS materials, leaves the mission field and presumably resigns from the church. Yet, even this inclusion served as authentication, rather than "planting seeds of doubt."
God's Army II - States of Grace was more controversial, and better, again, imho. Yes, a missionary gave into temptation, and yes, the sometimes hardshell attitudes (I'd rather have you come home in a casket than disgraced) gets uncomfortable. And yet, the mission president offers such compassion, and then there is the interfaith aspect, where a Pentecostal and a Baptist pray for the LDS missionary. Again, the film appeared authentic and mature, not "anti" or intentionally racy.
Ultimately, Dutcher's work gave me a greater respect for your church and the people of it. I found no fodder against your specific faith in those films. The difficult social/cultural issues he grappled with are common to most rigorious religious traditions.
You may mourn his religious choices, but those do not discount the value of the films he created.
__________________
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." -- Lord Acton
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to prisonchaplain For This Useful Post:
|
|

08-20-2008, 06:04 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: United States -
Posts: 841
Thanks: 82
Thanked 308 Times in 193 Posts
Laughs: 1
Got Laughs 10 Times in 5 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by MorningStar
Yeah, sounds like he used the church to get ahead in his career. Makes me happy I didn't like any of his movies that I saw.
|
I liked God's Army ok, it actually was quite a lot like my mission (major US city).
I loved Brigham City (all about the sacrament) and States of Grace (about the atonement). Two fantastic films.
HiJolly
__________________
"All it takes is for us to get a little bit self-important and narrow-minded. Toss in a little fussiness, a bit of dogma, and a bunch of pride and you've got yourself a bunch of people who wouldn't recognize the truth if it sat on them."
-- Robert Kirby
|

08-20-2008, 10:11 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: United States -
Posts: 2,711
Thanks: 32
Thanked 642 Times in 342 Posts
Laughs: 5
Got Laughs 22 Times in 11 Posts
|
|
Quote:
|
Now, no one wants to call themselves a Mormon filmmaker because you're associating yourself with a genre that's fallen into disrepute. It's like having porn on your résumé.'
|
This is the poignant part as far as I can tell.
-a-train
|

08-21-2008, 01:10 AM
|
 |
Senior Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: United States -
Age: 44
Posts: 5,964
Thanks: 351
Thanked 858 Times in 406 Posts
Laughs: 7
Got Laughs 23 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by a-train
This is the poignant part as far as I can tell.
-a-train
|
It's a juicy phrase "Mormon filmaker akin to porn filmaker"...but we know that what he meant was that both care little about true art or production values, and have relied instead on inexpensively making stories that will please their target audiences.
It still was not nice, but again, Dutcher takes his craft seriously, and he has intentionally not said anything negative about the Church or its teachings.
__________________
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." -- Lord Acton
|
 |
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
New Posts
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:25 PM.
|